As We Enter the Fifth Year of the Renewed Attack on All Things Confederate

We can definitely put the date of the beginning of this effort in earnest at June 17, 2015, it had been going on with increasing incidence ever since the Civil War Sesquicentennial, where it began picking up impetus.

That date, a white supremacist, racist, whose name won't be mentioned by me, entered that church and killed those blacks who welcomed him into study the Bible.  He has done the most to hurt the Confederacy than anyone ever did, other than John Wilkes Booth.  Why he is still alive is beyond me.

The second worst thing was the confrontation in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017.  This is where we also first majorly encountered the radical left.  When I saw video of what happened, I have to say that there were plenty of really bad people on both sides.  The sorry excuse who crashed his car into the anti-protesters is also, for some reason, is still alive.

I started this blog because newspapers usually don't report everything that continues to happen, which might give some the idea that this is over.  Believe me, it isn't.  And, personally, I don't believe it will be over until the last Confederate statue and memorial is pulled down or removed.

What I report are headlines from various newspapers and media sources and with some I make comment.

I am calling this the Second Civil War or Civil War II.

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: Lee-Jackson Day, UNC Black Panthers, the Shame of Winston-Salem, and Now Medicine

December 28, 2019

**  A new bill would end Virginia's observance of a holiday celebrating Confederate generals.

**  UNC Black Panthers send letter to Board of Governors opposing Silent Sam settlement.  They are the first Blacks to attend UNC between 1952 and 1972.  So surprised they would be against the settlement. At least we know they ad no involvement in the tearing down of the monument.

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December 29, 2019

**  In 2019, gun violence persisted, the Confederate statue came down. the Dixie Classic Fair got a new name...  (Winston-Salem, N.C..  And, you will never guess why the fair name was changed.  Too bad they took the statue down.  I had wanted to visit the Chicago White Sox minor league baseball team there, but now the city is on my list of no-visit/boycott because of this.

**  Should rebel flags be treated as Confederate monuments?  Lynwood Cemetery lawsuit shifts.

**  New logo for Civil War Medicine Museum won't include Union or Confederate flags in entirety. You'll never guess which flag had the problem.

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack: Lee-Jackson Holiday, Lee Statue, Silent Sam Again, Memphis, North Carolina and Pittsboro

December 27, 2019

**  Virginia lawmaker proposes  bill to end Lee-Jackson holiday.  (Joseph Lindsey is a black man, imagine that.)  At one time, Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday was celebrated the same day.  That was kind of weird.

**  Analysis:  Who joins rebel armies.

**  Governor's office seeks legislation to replace Lee's statue at US Capitol.

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December 28, 2019

**  Top stories of 2019:  UNC system gives Silent Sam to pro-Confederate group.

**  Confederate statues in Memphis given to Confederate group, descendants.

**  Students lead protest over Confederate flag, dress code.  (N.C. high school)

**  A reflection on Pittsboro's Confederate monument  from the lens of a Civil War historian.

--Old Secesh

Of Wiley's Racist Monument, Bands and Roses With Offensive Names, and Pesky Confederate Flags

December 25, 2019

**  Kehinde Wiley's anti-Confederate memorial.  (He is the sculptor of the new monument in Richmond, Virginia.  I am hoping people pay more respect to it than they do to Confederate monuments even though it is racist.)

**  Upcoming court date in ongoing Confederate monument  court battle reset.  (Caddo, Louisiana)

**  NWA Letters to the Editor "Statue deserves new place in context of area history.  (Bentonville, Arkansas.  Wants Confederate statue moved.)

**  Confederate Railroad coming to Jackson County Fair.  (Iowa.  Here's hoping Gov. "Toilets" of Illinois won't cause it to be cancelled because of the logo and name.)

**  Resident objects to vendor's booth at Old Tyme Fair in New Jersey with Confederate flag for sale.

**  Confederate roses.  I did not know there was a type of rose named this, but hopefully the name won't have to be changed because of their connection to the "S" word.

Well, if Confederate monuments are racist, I guess Mr. Wiley's monument is of the same sort.

--Old SeceshFlower

U.S. Army Bases, Silent Sam, Florida and Virginia

December 23, 2019

**  Fact:  10 U.S. military bases named after Confederate generals.  (Guess what they want done with those names?)

**  12/22 Letters:  UNC Board's Silent Sam deal was another strike at campus 'liberals.'

December 24, 2019

**  Lake County remains divided on Confederate general statue.  (Florida   Gen. Kirby Smith)

**  Why Virginia must amend its laws protecting Confederate statues.

**  Virginia plots a course worth following on Confederate statues.

**  Some residents want to rid Orlando school of Confederate general's moniker.

**  Virginia lawmakers ask governor to remove state's Robert E. Lee  statue from US Capitol.  (One is White, One is Black.)

**  Dolly Parton may replace a Confederate general.

**  North Carolina judge blocks students in Silent Sam  preservation decision with Confederate group.

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack: Silent Sam, Nikki Haley, Memphis and Pittsboro

December 22, 2019

**  Parks thrive after removing Confederate statues.  (Memphis, Tn.)

**  Court will examine Silent Sam settlement, standing of Confederate group.  (It is too bad the courts didn't do something about having those guilty of the hate crime in tearing down Silent Sam prosecuted.)

**  New honorary street marker unveiled for Preston Avenue.  (Charlottesville, Va.)  Now named in honor of Asalie Minor Preston, an early black educator in the 1930s.  The street was originally dedicated to Thomas Lewis Preston, a Confederate soldier who owned slaves.

**  Nikki Haley on flag debate:  People aren't going to 'listen to you' and 'work with you'  if you 'villify' them.

**  Pittsboro businesses push forward to end 2019.  (Pittsboro, N.C.  They were hurt by all the Confederate statue removal hoopla.)

--Old Secesh

Those "Horrible" Confederate Christmas Ornaments

Theses are headlines that you can look up to find out more.

December 20, 2019

**  The Confederate battle flag does not belong in cemeteries.

**  Students are fed up with seeing Confederate symbols at NC school.  (high school)

**  Confederate Christmas ornaments are smaller than statues--  but they send the same racist message.  (Has it come to this?)

**  'Winning the lottery':  Silent Sam settlement will vastly increase Confederate group's coffers.

**  In Memphis, a shadow lifted, a legacy carried.

**  Petition calls for removal of confederate general bust from Tennessee state capitol.   (Don't you just love it when the news source spells Confederate with a small "c".)

**  Confederate flag sweatshirt prompts new dress code.  (Oregon)

--Old Secesh

Memphis Statues and UNC Still Up In Arms

December 19, 2019

**  Confederate museum with Nathan Bedford Forrest statue doesn't want to be 'monument' graveyard.

** The Sons of Confederate Veterans want their due.

**  Memphis Confederate statues released to Sons of Confederate Veterans and descendants.
I wonder if this will come with money like at UNC?

**  Documents leave unanswered questions about UNC's deal with Sons of Confederate Veterans.

**  UNC Silent Sam settlement will vastly increase NC Confederate group's finances.

**  Confederate statues gone for good.

**  "Reparations" for Confederates?  UNC system trustees face backlash after paying more than $2.5 million.

**  A city cancelled its Christmas parade instead of banning Confederate flags.

**  Group plans to re-erect Memphis Confederate statues.

**  Notham proposes cutting budget for Confederate grave maintenance in favor of black cemetery fund.  (Virginia)

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: Memphis Statues and Deep UNC Troubles

December 18, 2019

**  Sons of Confederate Veterans take possession of Memphis statues.  Statues of Forrest, Jefferson Davis and another removed in 2017.

**  Documents show UNC paid $75,000 to keep Confederate group off campus.  Another agreement besides the $2.5 million.  This one the SCV agrees to stay off all UNC campuses for five years.

**  UNC faces backlash for its decision to preserve its Confederate statue.

**  UNC lost $1.5 million  grant after opening charitable trust to maintain Confederate statue.

**  High school students fly Confederate flag to taunt LGBTQ students.  Taunting is never acceptable.  However, the LGBTQ students had been handing out their flags earlier and this was in response.  What is fair for one flag is fair for another.

**  UNC defends decision to pay Confederate group to move a controversial monument.

Well, Perhaps Those UNC Students and Their Outside Agitators Will Think Twice Next Time Before They Commit A Hate Crime.  --Old Secesh

Civil War II: Why Those Confederate Statues Still Standing and Dolly?

December 17, 2019

**  93 % of Confederate monuments are still standing.  Here's why.

**  Iowa home with Confederate, Nazi displays vandalized.

**  Committee explains deal to relocate Confederate monument.

**  Theft of Confederate flags from cemetery remains a mystery.

**  Group protests  Nazi, Confederate display in Des Moines yard.  (I did see that the wood with the German war symbol was not a swastika.)

**  Will a Dolly Parton statue replace a Confederate memorial in Tennessee's Capitol?

**  NC lawyer sues Confederate group over UNC letter takedown.

Not quite sure what this last one is about.

--Old Secesh

And Now This, About Those Andrew Jackson Statues

From the December 16, 2019, Kansas City (Mo.) Star  "Frank White says minority groups should have had a say about Andrew Jackson statues"  by Mike Hendricks.

Over the objections of Jackson County Chief Executive Frank White, the county legislative assembly voted Monday to affix historical context plaques to statues of Andrew Jackson  outside the Kansas City courthouse and the Historic Truman Courthouse in Independence.

He would like some input on those plaques from Blacks and Indians on what the plaques say about his being a slaveholder and what he did to the Indians as both a military leader and president.

Well, at least they aren't being taken down (yet) and as of yet haven't been the victims of hate crimes from you-know-who.

And, in case you are wondering, Mr. White is a black man.

But at least the drive here is for context, not destruction and removal.

I Can Live With That.  --Old Secesh

Stealing Confederate Flags and Silent Sam

December 16, 2019

**  Confederate flags were stolen from a Virginia graveyard.  The search continues for the person who did it.  (Harrisonburg, Va.   About 250 small flags.)

**  Letter:  Move Confederate monuments to battlefields.

**  NC university's Silent Sam settlement draws suit.

**  Homeowner says swastikas, Confederate flags are not racist; others denounce them as symbols of  hate.   (Iowa)

**  Instagram won't pull these racist, violent, Russian-inspired accounts.  (Some are Confederate)

**  Georgia lawmaker  backs 'Confederate History Month' chided.

**  UNC and Silent Sam:  The uncertain future of a great university.

**  We made the deal to pay a Confederate group to take Silent Sam.  It was the best solution.

**  North Carolina loses $1.5 million over Silent Sam deal.

You know, if the other side's idiot squad (the ones upset about the money) hadn't pulled down Silent Sam, this wouldn't be an issue.

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: Oh Those Horrible Confederate Flags and Poor Nikki

December 13, 2019

**  State panel not expected to talk  Confederate bust at meeting.  (Tennessee)

**  Confederate flag is a racist symbol.

**  Column:  Nikki Haley is wrong about the Confederate flag's history.

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December 14, 2019

**  Democratic majority could bring monumental  change to Confederate symbols.

**  The Confederate flag is a symbol of cruelty.

**  Lewis Toland:  A different perspective on Confederate statue.

**  Confederate flag isn't honorable.

**  Nikki Haley and the Confederate flag.

**  Nikki Haley's remarks about the Confederate flag haven't changed.  Her stage has.

**  Iowa man facing backlash for Confederate, Nazi paintings in his front yard.  I saw the pictures of his house.  In my opinion, nothing was wrong with the Confederate flags but he should not have put the swastika there.

Okay, let's see, in these headlines:  Confederate flags are racist, cruel and dishonorable.  What else?

Getting That Flaggy Feeling.  --Old Secesh

Poor Nikki Haley Sure Opened a Can of Worms and Meet Statue Creator Kahinde Wiley

December 13, 2019

**  A statue of a black man on a horse has a new home in then heart of the Confederacy.

**  Civil rights lawyers stake claim in Confederate statue case. (Silent Sam statue money)

**  Meghan McCain on Nikki Haley's opposing Confederate flags comments:  'This will haunt her.'

**  Nikki Haley "disqualified for national office" after Confederate flag remarks, "View" co-hosts say.

**  Friday Letters:  Confederate monuments.

**  Goldman Sachs employees want to cancel a Nikki Haley interview after her Confederate flag remarks.

**  Kahinde Wiley responds to Confederate statues.  He is the black man who made the new Rumors of War statue in Richmond.  He also did the Barack Obama presidential painting and two paintings with something to do with two "Kill Whitey".

**  Meeks amendment  prohibiting Confederate names  for DOD assets included   in NDAA passage.  Gregory Meeks, a black man, is a U.S. Representative from New York.

--Old Secesh

'Outrage Culture', Parades, New Richmond Statue,Flags at UNC Faculty

December 12, 2019

**  Nikki Haley:  Confederate flag could not be taken down in South Carolina today in today's 'outrage culture.'

**  Georgia city cancels parade amid Confederate flag lawsuit.

**  New statue unveiled in response to Richmond's monuments.

**  Alpharetta city council votes to stop sponsoring parade amid Confederate flag lawsuit.

**  Richmond gets a new soaring statue, this one with dreadlocks.

**  Orange County rejects appeal over large Confederate flag along US 70.  (North Carolina)

**  UNC faculty:  Leaders must condemn Confederate statue deal.  There must be a moral to this story, folks.  Don't commit illegal hate crimes and expect to get away with it.

**  Swastika, Confederate flags on display near Iowa elementary school 'sickens' school officials.  (Des Moines)   Someone spray-painted the flags and a pick up truck on his property.  I hate to see Nazi symbols by Confederate ones.  Two different situations entirely.

**  Statue of black man on horse has new home in heart of Confederacy.

--Old Secesh

About That New Statue in Richmond, Lawsuits and Parades

December 11, 2019

**  New statue unveiled in response to Richmond's Confederate monuments.

**  Monumental statue of a black man defies Confederate monuments.

**  Richmond councilman renews push for local control over Confederate monuments.

**  Confederate group sues Georgia city over rebel flag removal.  (Columbus)

**  Owner of Confederate flag  violating Orange County rules.  (N.C.)

**  Confederate flag suit leads Alpharetta  to pull out of hosting parade.

--Old Secesh

UNC Folks Still Upset About Silent Sam Decision and Another Attack on Richmond Monuments

December 10, 2019

**  A university's betrayal of historical truth.  (Upset about UNC and Silent Sam.)

**  Confederate statue at Ole Miss campus:  What next?

**  Group calls on Amazon, Google to remove 'white supremacist, pro-Confederate materials.'

**  What Nikki Haley gets wrong about the Confederate flag.  But one must remember that she was instrumental in taking down the Confederate flag from the South Carolina statehouse.

**  Richmond councilman to introduce resolution giving city ability to remove Confederate statues.  This is regarding to Monument Avenue.  This is the third time he has introduced it.  And, the councilman is a black man.  Big surprise there.  I wonder if this will include the new statue at the Virginia Art Museum?

**  UNC faculty condemns system's settlement  with pro-Confederate group in resolution.  I can't help but think this is funny.  The SCV never would have gotten the money had the statue not been torn down.  I would still like to see what role the "faculty" had in that hate crime that night.

**  How the Daughters of the Confederacy spoiled Christmas.

**  'It's a free country':  Orange County man continues to fly large Confederate flag on his property.

**  UNC students march, protest Confederate statue settlement.  At least they were not able to deface or tear down the monument since they has already done that.   Again, the settlement wouldn't have happened had they not illegally and in a hate crime mode, torn the statue down in the first place.

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: Nikki Haley, Columbus, Suing and Joe

December 8, 2019

**  Haley:  Killer 'hijacked' Confederate flag meaning for some.

**  Confederate group sues Columbus mayor, councilors, over removal of flags at Lynnwood Cemetery.  (Ohio)

**  T. Greg Doucette  threatens to sue Sons of Confederate veterans , demands group donate $2.5 million to black UNC students.

**  Texas is no place for Confederate symbols.  (Houston Chronicle editorial)

December 9, 2019

**  Biden praises  group who 'display the Confederate flag' as 'fine people' in resurfaced video.  Back when Sen. Carole Mosely-Braun (a black woman from Illinois) wanted to deny the charter to the United Daughters of the Confederacy.

**  How the Confederate battle flag ended up in states like Vermont.:  Historians explain.

--Old Secesh

"I Feel So Bad for the Children" and Guilty Folks at UNC

December 7, 2019

**  A town's Christmas parade is canceled  because of potential protests over Confederate symbols.  Wake Forest, N.C.

**  Media piles on Nikki Haley  after misinterpreted Confederate flag remarks go viral.

**  'I feel so bad for the children':  NC towns cancel Christmas parades after  threat of protests and demands to remove Confederate groups.

**  University of Mississippi approves plan to relocate Confederate monument.

**  UNC faculty votes to condemn Silent Sam settlement giving$2.5 million to Confederate heritage group.  No surprise here.  They encouraged and supported students to commit the hate crime destroying the statue.

**  State officials may move Old Miss Confederate monument, but won't scrap it.

**  UNC students march, protest Confederate monument settlement.  They have only themselves to blame.  They tore the statue down.  I have to wonder why they haven't been expelled for criminal activity.

--Old Secesh

CW II: Ole Miss Confederate Monument in the Crosshairs Now and a New Statue in Virginia

December 6, 2019

**  Board considers plan on moving Ole Miss Confederate monument.

**  Agency mulls Confederate monument future.

**  Archives board OKs plan to move Ole Miss Confederate statue.

**  UNC students march, protest Confederate statue settlement.  I have to have a big laugh over this one.  It was their breaking the law and hate crime which led to the "payday."

**  Nikki Haley claims _____ ____ 'hijacked' the 'heritage'  of the Confederate flag in church massacre.  Nikki Haley was governor of South Carolina when the Confederate flag was removed from the state Capitol.

I do not believe in naming murderers is the reason for the blanks.  I can not believe this guy is still alive.

**  Crews prepare for statue made in response to Confederate monuments  to be placed at VMFA.  Virginia Museum of Fine Arts

How about that, a new statue going up in the South and believe me it is not a Confederate statue.   I wonder if the Confederate-haters will "vandalize" this one.

--Old Secesh

Civil War II: Christmas Parade Cancellation Was Big News Last Week

December 6, 2019

**  Fearing protest, North Carolina town cancels Christmas parade featuring Confederate group.  USA Today

**  North Carolina Christmas parade canceled over Confederate controversy.  NY Post

**  Towns cancel Christmas parades after Confederate groups' floats spark potential protests.  Newsweek

**  North Carolina town cancels Christmas parade due to fear of protests over the inclusion of Confederate group.    The Hill blog

**  Christmas parades with Confederate floats canceled.  Washington Post

**  North Carolina Christmas parades canceled over reaction to Confederate floats included in them.  HillReporter

**  Christmas parades with Confederate floats canceled.  Houston Chronicle

These are dealing with the cancellations of Christmas parades in Garner and Wake Forest, North Carolina over fear of protests and violence from the Confederate-haters.


A Big Ol' Bah Humbug From Them.  --Old Secesh

And So It Goes: No Parade for You

December 5, 2019

**  University of North Carolina gives Confederate group $2.5 million in lawsuit settlement. (Silent Sam)

**  Wake Forest cancels Christmas parade after threat of anti-Confederate threats.  (North Carolina)  Isn't this the saddest news for a Christmas parade?

**  Wake Forest joins Garner in canceling its Christmas parade for fear of disruption.  And we know who is making the threats. Certainly not the Confederate re-enactors.

**  Jessica Luther Rummel:  Yearslong research shows genesis behind Confederate monument , why it must be moved.  (Confederate statue in Denton, Texas)    Some first rate, but extremely biased research.  Not that I'm biased, of course.

**  La. parish approves funding to remove Confederate monument.  (Caddo, Louisiana)  ($500,000)

A Bah, Humbug from the Confederate Haters.    --Old Secesh

Things to Know About Pearl Harbor

Well, more than five.

From the December 7, 2019, Kankakee (Illinois) Daily Journal "Five things to know about Pearl harbor."

**  The attack destroyed or damaged  about 20 Navy ships and more than 300 planes.

**  Drydocks and airfields were likewise destroyed.

**  2,403 sailors and soldiers and civilians were killed.

**  Nearly all the battleships at Pearl Harbor were significantly damaged:  Maryland, West Virginia, California, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Tennessee were either sunk of badly damaged.  All, however, were raised and repaired and fought.  The USS Arizona and Oklahoma were both sunk and never fought again.

**  Despite this,the U.S. Pacific Fleet was not knocked out of the war..

**  The Japanese failed to destroy the most important onshore facilities:  oil storage depots,  repair shops, shipyards and submarine yards.  As a result, the U.S. was able to rebound rather quickly.

**  Unexpected American reaction.  The attack united the country with a desire to go to war,

**  When FDR asked for a declaration of war the next day,  Congress was just one vote shy of unanimous, with Rep. Jeannette Rankin of Montana voting against it (she had also voted against the WW I declaration).  She said, "As a woman I can't go to war, and I refuse to send anyone else."

--GreGen

Just One In Three Pearl Harbor Survivors Will Be Able to Attend a Ceremony Today

These are some of today's headlines about Pearl Harbor from around the country to mark the event.  You can type in the headlines to read the articles.

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**  Pearl Harbor veteran's internment to be the last on the USS Arizona.

**  Wisconsin Pearl Harbor survivor to release book detailing his life story.

**  Writer remembers Pearl Harbor survivors.

**  Pearl Harbor survivor to rejoin 'all my buddies' as his ashes are placed on sunken battleship.

**  USS Arizona survivor remembers Pearl Harbor.

**  Pearl Harbor commemoration to continue  in Inland Northwest, even after death of last known local survivor.

**  Oldest Pearl Harbor survivor being honored in Solana Beach.

**  Norris Burkes:  Grass Valley Pearl Harbor survivor Joe Feld remembers the Day of Infamy.

**  Pearl Harbor survivors return to Oahu  to share their memories of the attack.

December 7, 1941, Pearl Harbor

This is a new blog so might confuse readers as to why I take this day to write about this event, which took place today, 78 years ago on the island of Oahu.  I write about it in all my blogs this day.

A Day of Infamy.  A Day which won't be forgotten in my blogs.

Civil War II: Here a Neo,There a Neo. Who's a Neo?

December 4, 2019

**  Why did UNC give millions to neo-Confederate group?  About the "Silent Sam" statue which was torn down by UNC students in a hate crime last year.  I just love the term Neo-Confederate.  Makes you think Neo-Nazi.  Confederate-haters love to use this term.

This was on the opinion page and written by a University of North Carolina history professor.  Well, we know where he stands on the subject.  Must Be a Neo-College Prof.

**  Caddo approves $500,000  to remove Confederate statue.  (Louisiana)

**  Protest continue in Lake County  over planned move of Confederate general's statue.  (Florida)

**  Confederate monument up for review this week.  (University of Mississippi)

**  Top Alabama court upholds Confederate monument protections.

**  When the Sons of Confederate Veterans threatened a Silent Sam lawsuit they couldn't possibly win, UNC surrendered without a fight.

**  Commissioner Jackson  on Confederate monument:  The clock is ticking.  (Caddo, Louisiana)

**  National civil rights organization wins in court decision to uphold removal of Confederate monument.  (Pittsboro, NC)

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack: Cleaning Up "Vandalism" and the Stolen Confederate Flags

December 3, 2019

**  Texas Senate to review chamber's art, including Confederate paintings.  (And guess what they'll do with those.)

**  Crews cleaning  vandalism off Charlottesville's Confederate statues.  (Again, this is not vandalism.  It is a Hate Crime!)

**  Columbus preps for legal battle over Confederate flags removed from Linwood Cemetery.  (Ohio)

**  Poll:  Majority of NC residents support Confederate statues staying in place.

**  Reward for information  regarding stolen Confederate flags increased.   Some 200 Confederate flags stolen from Woodbine Cemetery in Harrisonburg, Va.  Increased to $1,500.

**  Judge dismisses Daughters of the Confederacy lawsuit:  Chatham Confederate statue will stay down.  Pittsboro, N.C.

**  Feedback meetings complete, Eads says Confederate statue removal won't be an option.    (Denton County, Texas)

Is This All-Out War?  --Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: UNC Gives $2.5 Million to Upkeep of Silent Sam

December 2, 2019.

**  Fact check:  Were federal benefits granted to Confederate veterans

**  UNC will give Silent Sam to Confederate group--  Along with a $2.5 million trust.

**  Letter:  Police arrest victims in Confederate counter-protest.

**  An opinion on Confederate monuments & history.

**  More diversity could fix  the UNC Board of Governors.

--Old Secesh

About Those Christmas Parades in North Carolina

In the past several days, one parade was canceled and one received the go-light.  Both North Carolina towns are near Raleigh, the state capital.

Garner canceled theirs, but Wake Forest will still have their annual parade.

The Wake Forest parade (Wake Forest Univ. was originally located here before it moved to Winston-Salem) has included the Sons of Confederate Veterans for decades.  The parade will go on as planned.

The City of Garner, however, canceled their parade, which has had Confederate re-enactment groups for many years,  But fears that their appearance might cause "those people" who hate all things Confederate to cause problems and disrupt it with confrontations caused the city council to cancel it this year.

It is too bad when a group can disrupt an annual, peaceful event simply through threat as "those people" do now.

Kudus to Wake Forest for standing up to "those people."  Disruptions and confrontations will not be coming from Confederate re-enactors.

--Old Secesh

Civil War II: Statues "Vandalized" Again and Wake Forest Christmas Parade to Go On

December 1, 2019

**  Observer Forum:  Did UNC System make right call on Confederate statue Silent Sam?

**  Wake Forest residents back decision to let parade continue.  (N.C.   The Christmas parade will be held despite the fact that Confederate re-enactors are in it.

**  Greg Harton:  A monument stands for something.

**  'This is racist' and 'Impeach Trump' spray painted on Lee statue in Charlottesville.

It "Ain't" Over.  --Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: N.C. Ban on Removal of Confederate Monuments Challenged

November 30, 2019

**  NC ban on removal of Confederate monuments is challenged as local councils continue to bring down statues.

**  Confederate statue fights show a greater division.

**  To erase Dixie Highway, Florida County might turn to Harriet Tubman for help.

Even Highways?  --Old Secesh

Confederacy Under Attack: UNC Gives "Silent Sam" to SCV

November 28, 2019

**  University of North Carolina gives 'Silent Sam' statue, toppled by protesters in 2018, to Confederate group.

**  Alabama Supreme Court rules that Birmingham cannot cover Confederate statue in Linn Park.

**  'It's a disgrace':  UNC will give Silent Sam to Sons of Confederate Veterans after suit.

**  Controversy surrounding Confederate group prompts Garner (N.C.)  to cancel Christmas parade.  People opposed to the Sons of Confederate Veterans have been making social posts against their participation so parade was canceled for fear of confrontation.

**  Even though I've already written about "Silent Sam" being turned over to the SCV twice, I couldn't help but like this headline:  "Confederate group nabs  statue toppled at UNC."  There you go, nabbing again.

Bah, Humbug!!   --Old Secesh

Civil War II: A Very Rare Judicial Win

November 27, 2019.

**  Connecticut man ordered to take down Confederate flag.  I read about this story and believe me, this is someone we don't like flying Confederate flags or having anything to do with our side.  The man flying the flag is a complete jerk and idiot and should be arrested.

**  Sons of Confederate Veterans withdraw Tennessee complaint.

**  1898 descendants divided on George Davis Confederate statue.  Wilmington, N.C.

**  Top Alabama court upholds Confederate monument protections.

**  Legal settlement will keep Confederate  statue off UNC campus.  "Silent Sam"

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: The Dixie Highway, That Gross and Racist Highway

November 26, 2019

**  Sons of Confederate Veterans dismiss case over Franklin stake removal.  At first I thought this was a misprint and should have been statue instead of stake.  But, I read the article which said Franklin, Tennessee, has stakes with the names of Confederate generals killed at the Battle of Franklin.

Six generals were killed at the battle.  A group plans on removing them.

**  'I am scared because I am black.'  Connecticut man ordered to take down Confederate flag after waging harassment campaign against neighbors.

**  'People have thought about this.' :   Majority of North Carolinians want Confederate monuments to stay.

**  Miami-Dade might rename Dixie Highway because its name is gross and racist.

**  North Carolina takes down Confederate statue from courthouse amidst 'high emotions, division, and even violence.'

Now, They're Even Going After Stakes.  --Old Secesh

Heritage Attacks Continue: Of Peaks, Laws and Propaganda

November 24, 2019

**  Confederate flag is the symbol of KKK, white supremacy.

**  Protests continue after statue removal.  (Pittsboro, N.C.)

**  Art and racist propaganda should not be conflated:  Letters to the editor.

Okay, I had to look up conflated.  It means combined.

**  Judge throws out Alabama law that protects Confederate monuments.

**  Nevada naming board votes to strip Confederate leader's name from peak.  (Jeff Davis Peak)

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack: About That Confederate Railroad Band

November 23, 2019

**  Removal of Caddo Confederate monument temporarily blocked again as UDC files new suit.

**  Facing NAACP lawsuit, Hanover School Board punts on Confederate names at special meeting.

**  Bringing a 'fuller story' to Confederate monuments in Tennessee honors our history:  Opinion.

**  Ulster County paid $6000 toward replacement act for Confederate Railroad at fair.  This band has the word Confederate in it and use the Confederate battle flag in their logo.

**  The Tea:  Reminders of a past we can not escape.

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: Poll Shows Most North Carolinians Want Statues to Remain

From November 22, 2019.

**  Another Confederate monument just came down in North Carolina.  How many are left?

**  2 people are accused of damaging Confederate monument in Northwest Arkansas.

**  Majority of North Carolinians want Confederate monuments to stay, poll says.

**  United Daughters of the Confederacy files new argument after dismissed by judge to restore Winston-Salem Confederate monument.

--Old Secesh

Did Bubba Watson Remove the General Lee's Confederate Flag?-- Part 2

You've just got to love the name Bubba in this article.  Seems fitting, right Cooter?

Three years later, during the widespread drive to remove all things Confederate, Bubba Watson tweeted:  "All men are created equal, I believe that so will be  be painting the American flag  over the roof of the  General Lee #USA."

The Volo Auto Museum in Lake County, Illinois, out close to me, which owns the only other surviving Georgia General Lee, quickly offered to buy Watson's car, but he never replied.

But, no one has ever seen whether Mr. Watson made good on his promise.  John Schneider doesn''t think he did.

While the current value of the car is not known, classic car experts say that removing the Confederate flag would have a negative impact on the car's value.

Well, then there is the problem with the car's name.

Did Bubba Shoot the Jukebox?  --Old Secesh

John Schneider Doesn't Think Bubba Watson Took Confederate Flag Off His General Lee-- Part 1

From Oct. 31, 2019, Fox News by Gary Gastelu.

John Schneider played Bo Duke on the TV show "Dukes of Hazzard" and says he doubts that golfer Bubba Watson  lived up to his promise to remove the Confederate flag from the iconic Dodge Charger  "General Lee" that they drove.  Supposedly he was to replace it with a U.S. flag.

Watson bought the fully restored car in 2012 for $121,000.  This is the actual General Lee that was shown jumping over a police car in the show's opening credits.  It was designated as  "Lee 1" by the production team, and later repainted and reused in a different role then sent to a Georgia junkyard where it was rediscovered twenty years later.

Hundreds of stunt cars were used during the show's seven-year run, but Watson's is one of only two known to have survived the  from the Georgia shoots before production was moved to California.

Watson is a long-time fan of the show and drove it often in public but the Confederate flag painted on its roof became an issue when NASCAR canceled a scheduled parade lap by the car before the Phoenix race that year.

Really, NASCAR, the General Lee?

You Just Can't Know About a Guy Named Bubba.  --Old SecLee1

The Confederacy Under Attack: The Pittsboro Confederate Monument Removed At Night

November 20, 2019

**  Case dismissed for man who challenged impacts of Confederate statue outside Clinton courthouse.  (Louisiana)  This is a real good story.

**  Confederate monuments should be removed.

**  Removal of Confederate statue outside Chatham County courthouse begins.  (Pittsboro)  Looks like another place to be added to my ever-growing boycott list.

**  Bellingham named a bridge after Confederate officer 100 years ago.  Why it's history.   Pickett Bridge is no longer that in Bellingham, Washington.

**  Museum exhibit in Lynchburg to display Confederate flag after consultation with community.  (Virginia)

Another Loss in Pittsboro.

You Have to Wonder Why So Many Hate Crimes and Removals of Confederate Statues Take Place At Night?  One Wonders.  --Old Secesh

Heritage Attacks Continue: Future of Confederate Monuments in NC Still in Limbo

November 19, 2019

**  Vandals splash yellow paint on Confederate monument  in downtown Salisbury.  (NC)

This has been "vandalized" before.  Drivers passing by pulled over to vent to TV crew.  Statue of an angel carrying a Confederate soldier.  More paint put on it in August.

**  Future of several Confederate monuments in North Carolina still in limbo.

**  In Nashville, Nikki Haley reflects on removing Confederate flag from Capitol while SC governor.

**  Third of four meetings sees Confederate committee still struggling with 'context' suggestions.

**  Confederate statue was erected to honor soldiers from Chatham County.  (Pittsboro, N.C.)

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: The Sugar Land 95

November 18, 2019.

**  150-year-old-precedent faces change in new, blue Virginia.

**  'It's a sham':  Protests erupt  at FBISD's ceremony to honor Sugar Land 95."  Two years ago the bodies of nearly 100 former slaves were found.  The Texas school district plans on reburying them, but there is a protest that they should be tested for DNA to find their relatives.

Fort bend Independent School District is about 30 miles south of Houston.  The land had been given to the district by the Texas prison system.

**  Robert E. Lee wasn't a hero, he was a traitor.

I can certainly see why the people in Texas would want testing done, but the district says they already have enough material for the testing, but out of respect would like to bury the bodies and do the testing later. However, who will pay for the testing is not known.

Although this is not an attack on the Confederacy, the protesters did claim that had the bodies been of Confederate soldiers, the reburial would not be happening.

--Old Secesh

Confederacy Under Attack: Pittsboro Gets Violent

November 17, 2019.

**  Fight breaks out among protesters near Confederate statue in Pittsboro.

**  Lynchburg museum prepares for January  opening of exhibit featuring Confederate flag.  It will feature a restored Confederate flag from the 11th Virginia Volunteer Infantry regiment.   It is feared that some people might be offended.

**  Officers arrest three at protest near Confederate statue.   (Pittsboro, N.C.)

**  11 arrested in brawl near Confederate statue in Pittsboro.

**  Picture of New Jersey student wearing blackface in front of Confederate flag sparks outrage.

And So It Goes.  --Old Secesh

Heritage Attacks Continue: Now Charlottesville Will Remove the Lewis, Clark, Sacagawea Statue

November 16, 2019

**  Did two congressional acts give Confederate veterans federal benefits?

**  Photo shows another NJ high school student in blackface with Confederate flag.

**  Fayetteville (NC) residents flood public forum on proposed Civil War museum.

**  Nikki Haley urges Liberty University students  to 'push through fear.'

**  Plan to remove Lewis, Clark Sacagawea statue in Charlottesville approved.   (What next?)

**  GOP won't disavow Trump, but Nikki Haley has another strategy.

Well, If Charlottesville Can't Get Rid Of Lee....  --Old Secesh

Confederacy Under Attack: "Lost Cause" Language, Schools, Cameras

Nov. 13, 2019

**  Democrats'  wins could help bring down Confederate statues.

**  Demand for "lost cause" language near Confederate statue emerges as meetings continue.

**  Veteran asks why confederate floats were allowed in at annual parade. (Hey, Confederate is spelled with a capital "C.")

**  Unauthorized camera  removed from Confederate statue.

**  Hanover County School Board to discuss possible resolutions to NAACP suit.   (They want them to change the names of two schools named after Confederates.)

**  Editorial:  A very thorough and correct investigation  of UNC police.  (Thinks they were too easy on "neo-Confederates" as they called them.)

**  Activist files to run against Tennessee's US Rep. Jim Cooper.  The black activist has held protests at the Tennessee Capitol and was arrested in February for throwing a cup of liquid at lawmakers while protesting am bust of Nathan Forrest in the Capitol.

--Old Secesh

Attacks on the Confederacy: Texas Politician Opens Mouth, Inserts Foot

From Nov. 12, 2019.

**  Texas politician suggests Veterans Day organizers should be lynched, tells Confederate group to 'get a rope.'

Sid Miller of Stephenville now says this statement was a joke.  Said it after the local Sons of Confederates showed up at Veterans Day parade and were told they had to remove their flags.  They left.

Extremely bad choice of words on his part.

**  Camera, tripwire device found near Confederate monument in Charlottesville.

**  Modern-day Harriet Tubman protests Confederate statue in Brownsville.

**  Curious Nashville:  Why is it so hard to alter Confederate monuments in Tennessee?

**  No Confederate flags flying here.

--Old Secesh

Civil War II: Early November: What About That Flag on the General Lee?

**  We can remove Confederate statues while also recognizing progress being made.

**  How Memphis transformed its parks named for Confederate  generals into inclusive spaces.

**  Meetings seeking feedback for Confederate monument begin Monday.

**  Pedestals of Confederate statues in Charlottesville vandalized yet again.   (Come on, "Vandalized"?  We know what this is.)

**  Middle moves to keep Confederate flags Trump merchandise out of Harvest Fest.

**  Ernest Blevins:  Confederate monuments are community memorials.

**  John Schneider doesn't think Bubba Watson (golf pro) took the Confederate flag off his car.(The General Lee from "Dukes of Hazzard."    This is an interesting article.)

**  County fair votes against banning sale of Confederate flag merchandise.  (Wow!!)

--Old Secesh

They're Back: The Second Civil War Continues

A couple weeks ago, I noticed there was just one alert for Confederate in my e-mail.  That was great.  Maybe, these continued attack on all-things Confederate were becoming to an end.

And, then, I went several days with no alerts at all.

I kind of doubted that the attacks had stopped, but couldn't help but hope they had.  It would give me nothing but pleasure to end this blog.  "The war is over, man, Wormer dropped the big one."  I don't have enough time to do my other seven blogs.  One less would be wonderful.

It was either that, or perhaps someone doesn't want me to be writing about all the attacks as many people rarely hear anything about it.

But as long as the Civil War II or Second Civil War continues, I have to continue this blog.

Oh, Well.  I Was Kind Of Hoping This Would Be Over.  --Old Secesh

Are Confederate Veterans Considered to be United States Veterans?

Not according to the anti-Confederate folks  who regard them as being the same as the Nazi guards at the German concentration camps during World War II.  Few in world history have been worse.  They deserved nothing but shame and their memory eliminated because of the stain of slavery.

But, how come Confederates are buried in National Cemeteries?  How come they are issued gravestones by the U.S. government?  Why is it that the widows and children are eligible for federal pensions?

Perhaps, somehow, someway, they are U.S. veterans.  As such, disrespect to any of them is tantamount to disrespect for all U.S. veterans.

Something the Confederate haters should think about before they commit hate crimes (i.e. "vandalize") Confederate statues and memorials.  I guess we should condemn them to be a part of those who showed such disrespect for our veterans returning from the Vietnam War.

--Old Secesh

Pittsboro, N.C.'s Confederate Statue

Going back through some headlines dating back to August of this year:

**  Aug. 14:  Daughters of  Confederacy reject Chatham County monument talks.  What's next for the statue.

**  Aug. 20:  Chatham Board (Pittsboro is in Chatham County which is southwest of Raleigh) votes to remove Confederate statue.

**  Sept. 14:  Protesters argue whether Pittsboro Confederate monument should come down.

**  Oct. 5:  Confederate statue supporters, protesters hurl insults in Pittsboro;  three arrested.

**  October 19:  Protesters  gather near Pittsboro  Confederate monument.


Oct. 26:  Confederate statue clashes in Pittsboro lead to two arrests.

--Old Secesh

It Started in Pittsboro Back in 2017-- Part 2

Randy Voller  said that when the original courthouse burned down in 2010, that he heard from the community that there were those who said they wished the statue had burned down as well, particularly in the black community.  He suggested that a resolution be sent to the Chatham County Board of Commissioners requesting that a more suitable place be found for the statue and replace it with something more unifying.

"I will defend  all citizens' rights to free expression, thought and access to free assembly,: Voller said.  "However when we are considering the iconography and monumentation that appear prominently in our public square representing in some way, shape or form the dreams and aspirations of the community we can and should take the time to reflect whether such monuments represent the community at-large and whether it is time to consider a change."

Monumentation?

Wonder what Mr. Voller is running for?

--Old Secesh

It Started in Pittsboro Back in August of 2017-- Part 1

From the August 18, 2017,  Raleigh (N.C.) News & Observer  "Rumors bring group to aid of Pittsboro's Confederate monument" by Tammy Grubb.

And this was over two years ago.

Rumors that another Confederate statue might be coming down sparked a group of Chatham County (N.C.) to action Thursday.  Several Pittsboro residents were spotted during rush hour sitting along the base of the Confederate statue in front of the county courthouse.

Sunday, there was a vigil attended by about 30 person in solidarity with the victims of the protest in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday.

Former Pittsboro mayor Randy Voller has called for conversation on the statue's future.  News coverage of his interview seemed to lead to the rumor that the statue was to be taken down according to Voller.

The monument's future was not the only reason he  spoke to the board, but also the toppling of the Durham Confederate statue as well.

--Old Secesh

About That Racist Incident at the Buffalo Wild Wings in Naperville, Illinois

There is a whole lot about this story in the Chicagoland media.

Last weekend, a group of Blacks came into the Buffalo Wild Wings in Naperville and were asked to move because a white person there did not want to be seated next to Blacks.  The people at the restaurant had the black folks move.

This is almost unbelievable in this day and age that something like this would happen.  I thought we'd come a long way from when Blacks could not eat in restaurants with Whites.

I am glad the Blacks made a big thing about it as well they should.  The managers and employees at the Wild Wings have been fired and the white customer is no longer allowed to come inside.

Just Hard to Believe This Story in This Age.  --Old Secesh

Confederate Monument in Pittsboro, N.C.-- Part 3: A Public Dedication

DEDICATION DATE:  August 23, 1907

CREATOR:  C.J. Harlin   Durham (N.C.) Marble Works, Supplier

MATERIALS AND TECHNIQUES:  Mt. Airy Granite  (N.C.)

SPONSOR:  Winnie Davis Chapter, United Daughters of the Confederacy

UNVEILING AND DEDICATION:  North Carolina Supreme Court Justice Walter Clark was the orator and was introduced by Mrs. H.A. London.  The statue was presented by Mrs. H.A. London and received by Lieutenant O.A. Tanner.  Col. John R. lane served as the Chief Marshall for the occasion.

POST DEDICATION USE:   Children made a game of tossing bottle caps from the balcony of the courthouse to see if they could get it to stay on the soldier's hat.

CONTROVERSIES:  Some people in Chatham want the monument removed from the courthouse, or destroyed.  They contend it promotes racism and commemorates the slaveholding South.  Others defend it as a reminder of historical events and local heritage.

LOCATION:  The statue stands directly in front of the Chatham County Courthouse steps.

CITY:  Pittsboro, N.C.

COUNTY:  Chatham

So, how come this stood 112 years with no problems.  And, now?

--Old Secesh

Confederate Monument in Pittsboro, N.C.-- Part 2 Service to the Confederacy

On the rear of the pedestal reads:

Chatham furnished 1900
Soldiers to the Confederacy
About 14-50 enlisted in the foll-
owing companies organized in this
county.

Co.I- 32 Regiment
E 26
G 26
D 35
E 44
G 48
D-61
E 63
G 63
H 70
D 49

About 450 sons of Chatham enlisted in companies
Organized in other counties.

--Old Secesh

About That Confederate Monument in Pittsboro, N.C. That's Causing All the Fuss-- Part 1

From NCpedia.

DESCRIPTION:  A bronze statue of a Confederate soldier stands atop a marble pedestal.  He is clad in a Confederate uniform, complete with hat and holds his rifle in front of him., its butt resting on the ground.  The monument stands 27 feet tall (pedestal and statue).

INSCRIPTIONS:

FRONT:  To the Confederate soldiers of Chatham County

SIDES:

This monument is the gift of those who
Revere the memory of the Confederate
Soldier.

Erected under the auspices of the Winnie
Davis Chapter of the Daughters of the
Confederacy.  Mrs. H.A. London
President
August 23, 1907

More to Come.  --Old Secesh

Civil War II, Nov. 1: N.C., Georgia and Emmett Till

Alerts for Confederate Nov. 1, 2019.

**  Confederate statue remains in Chatham County.  (Pittsboro, N.C.)

**  As NC reckons with Confederate monuments, marker in Georgia supplies historical context.  As in they were fighting for slavery.  I am very willing to have these context markers put up as long as the statues remain.

**  Why the Emmett Till memorial briefly sat in front of the Confederate monument.  The Emmett Till marker has been repeatedly vandalized, most often with bullets because of its way out in the country location.  This is nothing short of a hate crime and if the offenders are apprehended, they should be charged as such.

I consider desecration to Confederate statues a hate crime as well.  Offenders should be treated as such.

**  Civil War Medal of Honor recipient reburied at veterans cemetery.  (Not CW II)

**  Relocating statues at University of Texas campus won't change our history.

--Old Secesh

Actually Just One Headline in Confederate Google Alert Today

And, I wrote about it yesterday:

**  Trump tweet, political divisions fuel rising discourse about new US Civil War.

This is about the possibility of a new Civil War breaking out.

It has not been just one headline since before the murders in Charleston, S.C..

Of courser,if this is what it is going to be in the future, with one or no headlines about these attacks that might mean this Civil War is over.

Here's Hoping It's Over.  --Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack, Oct. 30, 2019: Schools and Statues

From the Oct. 30, 2019,Google Alerts for Confederate.

**  Watch exclusive clip of Trace Adkins as Confederate outlaw in upcoming movie "Badland."
(not CW II)

**  Judge halts Chatham County plan to remove Confederate statue from Pittsboro courthouse.  A very rare judicial win for us,even if just temporary.

**  Franklin County School Board talks banning Confederate flag in dress code.

**  Ross wants gun rights for felons, yes to Confederate statues.

**  New research shows at least 76 Iowans joined the Confederacy during the Civil War.  (not CW II)

**  Letter:  Editorial took good position on Confederate statue.

**  Trump tweet, political divisions  fuel rising discourse about new US Civil War.

**  Stonewall Jackson Middle should drop first name, school panel says.

--Old Secesh

(Not CW II) and Skipped Days

Just a word about when you see (Not CW II) behind a headline on the list, as in the case of yesterday.  This means the article does not deal with the current Civil War where groups are seeking to wipe out Confederate heritage.  These are the articles I wish my whole Google Alerts for Confederate would be about.

This is the history of the First American Civil War.

Also, I will not be doing a days's lists of Google Alerts for Confederate, but that doesn't mean there were not any.  generally, I get at least eight and more a day.  Before yesterday's post from October 29, I had skipped Oct. 27 and 28.

The main purpose of this blog is to show that these attacks continue even if your local media isn't covering it.  Plus, these are not just from the Southern States, but North and West as well.

--Old Secesh

Civil War II, October 29: Changing Vandalism of Confederate Statues to Hate Crime

From the Oct. 29, 2019,  Google Alerts for Confederate.

**  2 arrested at Confederate monument  protest in North Carolina.

**  Confederate monument will not come down  in Chatham County  after judge's ruling at least for Now.

**  'Vicksburg' review:  Breaking the Confederacy  (not CW II)

**  Council to finally decide if Confederate Gen. Pickett's name belongs on Bellingham bridge.

**  Sons of Confederate Veterans want men who damaged Robert E. Lee bust  charged with hate crime.

**  Letter:  Confederate flags should be banned at Athens Co. Fair.

**  Confederate Railroad (Country rock band) booked 2 months before gov. cancelled.

**  Confederacy group claims it was a victim of Robert E. Lee bust vandalism.

**  NWA Letters to the Editor:  About damage to Confederate monument.

**  Feature:    Trump tweet, political divisions fuel rising discourse about new US civil war.

It Just Keeps Going.  --Old Secesh

Linwood Controversy: Flagpoles and Flags Removed After Confederate Flag Flew

From Oct. 25, 2019, WRBL CBS TV News by Chuck Williams.

I wrote about this in the last post and followed up on it.

At first I just figured it was just another example of offended people doing something illegal, but after hearing the story behind the headline, I'd have to say the Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV) camp was out of line in what they did.

Linwood is a historical cemetery in Columbus, Georgia, in which many Confederate veterans are buried.  The city and the SCV camp had reached an agreement where they could fly the First National Flag, but not the Confederate battle flag.  Either as a camp or an individual, someone raised the battle flag and the city immediately moved to not only remove the battle flag but also took down the two flag poles.

I don't blame the city.  The SCV broke the agreement.

--Old Secesh

Oct. 26, 2019: About That Confederate Flag at the Cemetery

From the Oct. 26, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.  (Columbus, Ga.)

**  Linwood controversy:  Flagpoles and flags removed after Confederate battle flag flown.  I will write more about this situation later where it seems the SCV overstepped their boundaries.

**  Group sues to block NC country from removing Confederate monument.  (Pittsboro, N.C.  There are four other articles about this.

**  Social media posts show Central Va students donning Confederate flags, using racist language. Incidents like this definitely do not help the situation with keeping the monuments and flags and give the opponents plenty of ammunition.

**  UIPD responds to Confederate flag incident.  (University of Illinois)

**  Confederate statue doesn't have to divide Danville.

**  DP Buzz:  The role of Confederate monuments.  An interesting array of comments and possible compromises.  I myself can see room for compromise on them.

--Old Secesh

October 25, 2019: White Victimhood?

From the October 25, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.

**  Three articles on the removal of Confederate monument in Norfolk.

**  Tensions flare in Chatham County as Confederate monument deadline nears.

**  Opinion:  Confederate Monuments and White Victimhood.

**  Witnesses:  Man yelled racial slurs while driving truck with Confederate flag around  Campustown.     (Champaign-Urbana, Illinois, home of Univ. of Illinois)  I hate to see things like this happen.

**  Hometown Horror Stories:  The Confederate ghosts at Beauvoir.  (not CW II, just in time for Halloween, though.

**  People gather to protest Confederate statue coming to Tavares.

**  Woman travels country restoring veterans headstones, focusing on Confederates.  (Probably not CW II)

**  Your Opinion:  Cease and desist moving Confederate monument.

--And So It Continues.  --Old Secesh

Oct. 24, 2019: Norfolk and Danville, Virginia to Shame Selves

You have to consider these as battles.  And, the Confederacy is losing badly.

**  'Johnny Reb' no longer welcome in Norfolk:  Virginia city gets ok to move Confederate statue.

Looks like yet another Southern City I will have to put on my boycott list, as so many have already managed to dishonor themselves.  And, I was hoping to visit the grave of Fort Fisher's Col. William Lamb, who was also mayor of Norfolk.

**  Prosecutors:  Virginia city can move monument.    Also about Norfolk's shame.

There were another seven articles about Norfolk's shame.

**  Confederate statue to be moved in Danville  (Va.)    Another city to boycott.

Pretty Soon, I Will Not Be Able To Go South With All These Boycotts.  --Old Secesh

Second Civil War, Oct. 23, 2019: Hate Crime Statue Damage Costs Money to Repair

**  City puts insurance "on notice" over Confederate statue damage.  (Charlottesville, Va.)  It costs money to repair damage done by those committing hate crimes against the statues.

**  Interfaith vigil set to oppose Confederate statue.  (Florida)  Religion too?

**  Some Bedford County parents 'disappointed and frustrated with school division's agreement with Office of Civil Rights.

**  Sons of Confederacy responds to Dixie Classic Fair name change.  Well actually it should be Sons of Confederate Veterans.  Dixie is another word used by the Confederacy.  Can't have that.

**  Facebook posts by Palmyra school board candidate use racially divisive themes and memes.

**  "Rumors of War" in Times Square is an epic response to Confederate statues.

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War, Oct. 23, 2019: Statues, Monuments and Now Placards

From the Oct. 23, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.

**  Norfolk can move Confederate monument, Virginia attorney general says.

**  Danville church decides to relocate Confederate statue.

**  Confederate flag placard sparks controversy.  You've got to read this one, it is something else.

**  Activists still fight to take down Confederate monuments across US.

**  Denton County is still trying to tell the "full" Confederate monument story.  Here's how to contribute.

--Old Secesh

More Attacks, Oct. 22, 2019: Confederate Statue in a Hoodie? More Damage to Confederate Monument

From the October 22, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.

**  A Confederate statue ... in a hoodie?

**  Franklin County schools dress code debate considers displays of Confederate flag.

**  NWA letters to the Editor:  Confederate memorial damaged.

**  Confederate statue to be removed from local church lot.

**  Governor Lee urged to start process for removing Confederate general's Capitol Hill bust.

**  Confederate monument in Pittsboro draws hundreds to demonstrate.

**  Va. school leaders enter agreement to resolve Federal civil rights complaint.

**  Visitors step back into history at Andersonville  Historic fair  (Not CW II)

--RoadDog

Confederate Battle Flag Has Divisive History-- Part 2: The Three National Flags

Continued from October 11, 2019.  Just click on the Flag's Divisive History label to see other posts.

"The banner has become more popular than the Confederacy's first official flag, the Stars and Bars, which resembled the United States' Stars and Stripes, but with three wide red and white stripes and with a blue square union with seven white stars.

"In 1863, the battle flag was officially recognized by the Confederate Congress, turning it into a political symbol, as it has been ever since."

At that time, it was incorporated into a larger white banner as a square in the upper left hand corner as the Confederacy's second national banner.  Then, a red bar was added at the opposite end of the banner so that  the flag would not be seen as a surrender flag when hanging limp.

"But, John Coski, a historian at the American Civil War Museum, who documented the banner's divisive history in his 2005 book, 'The Confederate Battle Flag:  America's Most Embattled Emblem,' warns against simplifying what it stands for."

--Old Secesh

Peaceful, Easy Feeling Out at Hainesville This Past Saturday

Well, peaceful and easy until the Prelude to the Battle of Atlanta started.  Then it got rather noisy when all the cannons opened up, followed by musketry.

This past Saturday and Sunday, Hainesville, Illinois, had its annual Civil War Encampment and Battle.  I was there on Saturday.  Even though I know a lot about the Civil War, I learned a lot more like "Battle Logs," "Goober Peas" and aerial wounds.   I'll be writing about some of these in my Saw the Elephant blog.

But, the biggest plus was that no ultra thugs showed up to mar the proceedings.  There was no Charlottesville.  And, I am talking about both sides of the Confederate issue.  And, the Lake County Forest Preserve District president evidently was not there either.  It was through his efforts that one of the premier Civil War events in the whole state and that was Civil war days at Lakewood Forest Preserve in Wauconda.  Guess he was afraid to see one of those Confederate flags, you know.  Must not offend the president, you know.

There were even a few black people learning about history out there.  And, quite a few children ranging from ages three to teens.  And I never did see one of them staring at their cell phones.  However, I did see some of the re-enactors on phones which didn't seem to look right.

One of the strangest things I ever saw was Robert E. Lee on a cell phone out at Wauconda one year.

A Trip Back Into History.  --Old Secesh

Heritage Attacks, Oct. 20, 2019: Pittsboro N.C. Is Peaceful

From the October 20, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate

**  Protesters gather near Pittsboro Confederate monument.

**  Pittsboro confederate monument draws hundreds of protesters and counter protesters.  Really, you'd think that a major North Carolina newspaper like the Raleigh News & Observer would know Confederate is spelled with a capital (C).

**  Three Forks history:  Most diverse battle fought at Honey Springs.  (Not CW II)

**  Have you witnessed signs of white power ideology (Confederate flags, Nazi symbols)?

**  From the Left:  remember our dark history, but don't celebrate it.

**  Bedford school system enters into agreement with Office of Civil Rights over Confederate flag.

**  Fall Muster draws hundreds of spectators, re-enactors to Beauvoir.  (Not CW II)

**  Protesters and Counter Protesters gather in Pittsboro in response to Confederate statue.

**  The impeachment of Andrew Jackson.

**  Urban warrior in Nikes and a hoodie leads charge against white orthodoxy.

So Glad the Situation in Pittsboro Turned Out To be Peaceful.  --Old Secesh

And, So It Goes,October 19, 2019: Monument Protests Leave Residual Effects in Pittsboro

**  275th anniversary:  Cedar Creek

**  Monument protests leave residual effects on downtown Pittsboro.  Whenever a Southern town does something like Pittsboro did, this means I will be boycotting it for a while.

**  Sanford:  One battle ends, but the fight over a Forrest bust continues at the Tn capital.

**  Executive Council gathers in Montgomery, Alabama, with city underscoring the theme of racial reconciliation.

**  When cotton was king.

--Old Secesh

And, So It Goes and Goes and Goes, Oct. 19, 2019: Neo-Confederate Groups in Pittsboro This Weekend

From the Oct. 19, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.

**  Neo Confederate groups to rally in Pittsboro this weekend.

**  Why Robert E. Lee wore a colonel's rank during the Civil War.

**  'Civil War Revisited' transforms Kearney Park into action-packed battlefield.

**  National Park Service Awards More $4 Million to help protect Civil War battlefields.

**  Ta -Nehesi Coastes, Ryan Coogle discuss 'The Water Dancer' and slavery's emotional trauma.

Don't You Just Love the Word Neo.  Kind of Makes You Think of Neo-Nazis.  --Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack, Oct. 18, 2019-- Part 2: Adding Historic Markers By Confederate Statues

**  Historic markers unveiled near Confederate statue in downtown Franklin.

To me, this is an acceptable compromise in the removal of status question.

**  'Never to return':  Greenspace wants Confederate statues out of Shelby County.

**  Author dismisses concept of Black Confederate soldiers.

**  Two hot topics:  a ruling regarding Confederate statues in Memphis and residency requirements.

**  Franklin's new historical markers reflect African Americans in city's Civil War legacy.

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack, October 18, 2019-- Part 1: Possible Confrontation in North Carolina

From the October 18, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.

**  SPLC releases details about upcoming Confederate monument rally.  This will take place tomorrow, Oct. 19 in Pittsboro, N.C..  I am hoping it doesn't become another Charlottesville, but with this group playing it up, it just might be.

SPLC stands for Southern Poverty Law Center which never misses a shot at the Confederacy  and seems to want the memory expunged from American history.  I'd almost go so far as to call them racist and a hate group on their own.

A confrontation over the statue is in nobody's best interest as them people on both sides are way too radicalized.

**  Sons of Confederate Veterans can't appeal statue's removal.

**  League of the South calls for backup at Confederate protest.  (This is a pro-Confederate group which will be at Pittsboro.

**  After court decision Confederate statues are unlikely ever to return to Shelby County.

--Old Secesh

Maybe We'll Get This One In: Hainesville's (Illinois) Civil War Encampment and Battle

Well, our Civil War re-enactments in the Chicagoland area were dealt a double shot by powers that be this summer.  First the annual Civil War Days event in Wauconda, Illinois, was cancelled, then reinstated, then cancelled again.  Then, the annual Civil War event in Naperville was cancelled.

The first one was cancelled because of racism on the part of the Lake County Forest Preserve's president, a black man who had problems seeing the Confederate re-enactors with their flags.  You know, the Confederate flag.

The second one was cancelled because of lack of attendance according to officials there.  But, I would like to see who brought the idea up and who voted to cancel it.

Both were long-running events and well attended (at least the one in Wauconda which I attended on several occasions).

Now, this weekend, there is going to be another re-enactment at Hainesville, Illinois.  Hopefully we will be able to get this in (and hopefully the weather will be good).

It's All Part of History, You Know.  --Old Secesh

Heritage Attacks Continue, Oct. 15-- Part 2: About the Confederate Capitals

**  Man behind I-20 Confederate flags says he'll run for senate.

**  Opinion:  Nathan Bedford Forrest, it's time for Tennessee to stop celebrating you.

**  An honest interpretation of John Castleman  could help us reconcile our slavery, Civil War.

**  All three capitals of the Confederacy now have black mayors.  Okay, I knew  Montgomery and Richmond.  But what was the third Confederate capital?

The third one was Danville, Virginia, which was the capital for a very short time after the Confederate government fled from Richmond.   Interesting.

**  Book Review:  "Life in Jefferson Davis' Navy."  Review of a new book on the Confederate Navy.  Anything Navy is my primary interest in the First Civil War.  Real Civil War history.

--Old Secesh

Heritage Attacks Continue, Oct. 15-- Part 1: "Dukes of Hazzard" Flap

From the October 15, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.

**  Police investigating further damage to Confederate statues.  (Charlottesville, Va.)  And guess what they're calling it.  Vandalism.  This is not vandalism.

**  Letter:  Keep Confederate  monument where it is.

**  Lt. Governor Rutherford:  Confederate plaque part of Maryland's 'complex' history.

**  John Schneider including 'Dukes of Hazzard' Confederate flag controversy in new movie.  For those of you who don't know, there are those who want the flag on the roof of their car removed.

**  'Searching for Black Confederates' unearths old arguments.

Something About That Flag On the Roof of That General Lee Car.  --Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack, October 14, 2019: And Don't Forget The Indian Confederacy

Oct. 14, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.

**  Indigenous history:  The Iroquois Confederacy.    I wonder if they will come under attack because of the "C" word.

**  7 Rebels' gravesites designated cemetery.    Real Civil War history.

**  Civil War historian to speak at Thomas Entrepreneural Hub.

**  Ford dealership in South Carolina goes full Confederate.

**  Glenn Boyce's Ole Miss:  An inside look at the new chancellor's involvement....

**  Hail Columbus the Italian:  His statue stands tall for a great people.  Now of course, people ar looking at his statues.

--Old Secesh

Confederate Battle Flag Has Divisive History-- Part 1

And, there was a time back in the 70s and 80s when I flew a Confederate and U.S. flag from the top of my garage and thought nothing of it and NEVER had anyone complain about it.  I also had a Confederate flag belt buckle that I wore to school every day and a SCV sticker, prominently featuring a Confederate battle flag (the proper battle flag with square dimensions instead of rectangular which was the Confederate Navy flag (or jack). on my truck cap.

Sure couldn't do that any more.

From the October 28, 2018, Chicago Tribune  "Confederate battle flag has divisive history, expert says" by Frances Stead Sellers, Washington Post.

"The distinctive configuration of white stars mounted on a blue 'X' and set against a field of red is now widely known as the Confederate flag.  But it was originally the battle flag of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia."

--Old Secesh

Confederacy Under Attack, Sept. 26, 2019: On the Football Field

From the September 26, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.

**  Bentonville (Ark.) police investigating damage to Confederate monument.

**  Ohio high school football team claims they were subjected to racist chants, Confederate flags in game.  (Orwell,Ohio)

**  From USA Today:  Nevada high school investigated for dragging black mannequin during halftime of homecoming game.

**  Confederate flags:  Melanie Finn.

**  Sons of Confederate Veterans to dedicate monument near Okolona.

**  Charlottesville man sues newspaper for reporting on family's past.

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack, Sept. 25, 2019: Some More On That Cop

**  Confederate Railroad headlines Hokes Bluff City Fest.    For those of you who don't know, Confederate Railroad is a popular country band who was booked to play at the Illinois State Fair in August but our governor had them banned because of the name.

**  Upcoming October programs at Kennesaw Mountain National Battlefield Park.  Okay, some more REAL Civil War stuff.

**  Cop fired over KKK, Confederate memorabilia:  "I'm just a Dukes of Hazzard fan boy."  You definitely shouldn't get fired for Confederate memorabilia.  KKK stuff is another category, though.

**  West Newbury selectmen aim for parade guidelines by January.  This involves Confederate flags in their Memorial Day parade for 2020.

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack, Sept. 25, 2019: What About That Cop in Michigan?

From the September 25, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.  You can type in the headline to see the articles.  These are just the headlines.

**  Michigan cop caught with Confederate flags in his house says he just really likes 'The Dukes of Hazzard."
**  These were the worst Union and Confederate generals in the Civil War.  Well, at least some REAL Civil War stuff.

**  Sons of Confederate Veterans now claim ownership of statues removed in Franklin.

**  Open Forum:  View of Confederate monument simplistic.

**  Fairfax County School Board votes to change school names with Confederate ties.

--Old Secesh

What Is This Civil War II?

We had a World War I and then a World War II.  We also had a Civil War (1861-1865) which was the only Civil War until essentially those murders in Charleston, S.C. on June 17, 2015.  This is the date I consider the start of Civil War II, though it had been going on for years before that, especially with the beginning of the Civil War Sesquicentennial in 2011.

June 17, 2015 was essentially April 12, 1861, with the firing on Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor.  It started the First Civil War.

I was writing about this continuing War on the Confederacy, or Civil War II as I call it, in my Saw the Elephant: Civil War blog, the last several months with three straight days worth of what my Google Alerts said.  It gives you the continuity and severity of those attacks.  Again, just because you don't continually read about these in your local newspaper, doesn't mean they aren't happening.

However, now that I have this new blog, I can write about Civil War II right here and keep Saw the Elephant to the First Civil War.

--Old Secesh

Some Older Heritage Attacks-- Part 2: Flags and More Flags

**  University clarifies removal policy for Confederate monuments.

**  Confederate flags will be sold but discouraged at county fair.

**  Confederate flag at community gardens in Concord removed.

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From the May 31, 2019, Google Alerts  for Confederate.

**  Parade vehicle with Confederate Flag draws criticism.

**  Letter:  Artifacts support alternative history of Confederacy.

**  There were six articles about the high school yearbook in yesterday's post.

Go Ahead, Flag Me!!  --Old Secesh

Some Older Heritage Attacks-- Part 1: Vendors and Yearbooks

I have been keeping an occasional list of the attacks in my Heritage Attacks notebook, just in case my old blog about them ever came to pass, but it didn't.  I will include them here.

From the May 30, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate:

**  Tennessee town's plans for Confederate statue draws controversy.  (Franklin)

**  High school yearbooks recalled over Confederate flag photo.

**  Vendors banned from selling Confederate flags at Gouveneu & St.Lawrene County Fair.

**  Kemp signs bill to protect Confederate monuments.

**  Neighbors furious after person hangs mannequin from tree next to Confederate flag.    (I don't blame them.  This is not good for anybody.)

--Old Secesh

Heritage Attacks for Sept. 20, 2019: How About Those UNC Students

Google Alers for Confederate from Sept. 20, 2019.

**  Charlottesville's Confederate statues damaged.

**  Noses chopped off of Confederate statues downtown.

**  Virginia pastors lead Bible study (by Confederate statues which they want removed).

**  Hurricane Dorian returns cannonballs in South Carolina.  Okay, real Civil War history.

**  UNC students create anti-racist' alert system as tensions over Silent Sam still fester.  Perhaps we should have one that warns when the students determine to commit a hate crime like when they illegally took the statue down.

**  Illinois State Fair revenue sets record.  Well, they got none from us.  We were planning to go, but boycotted after they canceled the popular band Confederate Railroad because of the name.

**  The Portsmouth (England) Lib Dems will rise again.

**  ACLU:  New Orleans photographer sued by former New Orleans school principal.

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack, Sept. 19, 2019: Trade the Confederacy for Greenland?

Again, these are newspaper headlines from the Sept. 19, 2019, Google Alerts.

**  'History is history':  protesters demand Mississippi flag fly as cities, colleges enact bans.

**  Precious Heritage vs. Just get Over It.

**  More tolerance, less judgement.

**  The Battle to Rewrite Texas History

**  Trade the Confederacy straight across for Greenland.

It Just Doesn't Stop.  --Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack-- Sept. 19, 2019: Norfolk's Idea of Protecting History

These are my Google Alerts  for Confederate from 9-1-9-1-9.  Kind of a neat set of numbers.

**  Roanoke man was last Real Son of a Confederate veteran.   Well, this is real Civil War history.  Not this Confederacism.  I'll write about him in my Saw the Elephant Civil War blog.

**  County attorney:  'More likely than not' UDC owns Confederate monument.

**  Secret Places:  Hidden Confederate treasures in Brooks County.   Okay, Real history.

**  After monument of Confederate soldier vandalized, Virginia city sues to move it elsewhere.  (Norfolk)  Can you believe that?

**  In 1889, candidate criticized for response about Confederate pensions.

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack, Sept. 18, 2019-- Part 2

**  Museum around the corner: Part of historic flag.  Actually, not an attack on thee Confederacy, but about a piece of a Confederate flag that flew over the ruins of Fort Sumter in 1864 and was shot down.  I'll have to wrote about it in my Running the Blockade blog.

**  Confederate statues in Charlottesville vandalized days after court decision.

**  UNC-Chapel Hill students say they think they've found Silent Sam.

**  Kommersant:  Impending confederation of Belarus and Russia.  (Okay.  Nothing to do with the Civil War, but the word confederation.

**  Letter to the Editor:  When the University is silent, we should listen.  University of Mississippi

**  Native American group gives school district $98,000 to support mascot change.  This in Michigan and the school's mascot from Lee Rebels to Lee Legends.

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack, Sept. 18, 2019: Should Confederate Monuments Be Removed?

These are headlines taken from my September 18, 2019, Google Alerts for Confederate.

Many people believe that because they are not seeing these things in the news every day that maybe it has gone away.  It has definitely not gone away.

I am just giving the headline, but you can look it up on your own.

**  Where were the black Confederate soldiers?

**  Some Christians must stop worshiping the false idols of Confederate monuments.

**  Panelists at The Valentine discuss how to contextualize Confederate monuments in Richmond.

The D.C.:  Should Confederate statues be removed?

It Definitely Is Not Over.  --Old Secesh

Accessing My Other Blogs

Like I said, this is now my 8th blog.  I've got to stop adding new blogs, but these attacks are really angering me.

You can access my other seven blogs by clicking on the My Blogs site to the right of this.

--Old Secesh

OK, I'll Take Another Shot At This Blog

I have tried on a couple occasions to start this as an EIGHTH blog and I should have my head examined for having so many blogs.  One is too much.  But EIGHT!!!!!!

The last blog on the Second Civil War as I call this current affront to my heritage that I tried to start has not had a new entry for two years now.  If this one takes, it will not be a big one for me, just several entries a month on these attacks on the Confederacy that happen so much these days.

I have been putting the attacks in my Saw the Elephant: Civil War blog, but I want to stop that and just do the First Civil War there.  Most recently, I have been doing the last three days of each month on the attacks and for awhile didn't cover them at all.  before that the blog was almost becoming an entirely Second Civil War one.

I will continue with my sign-off name from my Saw the Elephant blog and that is "Old Secesh," the name Northerners used as a put-down on Confederates who wanted to secede from the Union (Secesh or Sesh).

Let's Hope This Takes.  --Old Secesh