Should Confederate Monument Removal Be an Issue?

APRIL 25th, 2023

**  How do you feel about c(C)onfederate monuments  being a campaign issue in mayor's race?  (I'd consider it an issue.  And, I also believe that any proposal to remove a Confederate monument should be put to a vote of the people, not just a small group of politicians.)

**  Activists are calling  on state leaders  to leave Confederate Memorial Day in the past.  (Two guesses as to which race these activists belong.  First one doesn't count.  Is this a racist thing?)

**  Where Jacksonville  mayoral candidates Deegan and Davis stand on Confederate monument removal.  (Florida.   A lot of this revolves around if tax dollars should be used for removal.  I have always said that those that want them removed should foot the bill.)

--Old Secesh

A.P. Hill Goes Home, Skipping a Vote and Bringing It Back?

JANUARY 24, 2023

**  Confederate general's  remains removed to Virginia hometown.  (A.P. Hill's remains reburied in Culpeper, Va.  At least he is out of Sad R.)

**  Bell Co.  Commissioners skip vote on Confederate statue.  (Belton, Texas)

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JANUARY 25, 2023

**  County commission to discuss reinstalling Confederate monument.  (Manatee County, Florida.  I wonder what SPLC will say about that?)

Reinstalling?   --Old Secesh

Augusta, Charlottesville and Fairfax

JUNE 28, 2022

**  Mayor-elect says  removing c(C)onfederate  symbols 'not a priority.'  (August, Georgia.  And he is a black man.  Come on Yahoo!!  Confederate is a proper name!!)

**  Augusta wrestles with removing c(C)onfederate symbols.  (What's with Augusta and confederate?)

**  Putting Confederate memorial up for a vote has support.  (Augusta, Georgia.  I fully agree with that.)

**  Plans to melt down Robert E. Lee statue on hold while lawsuit plays out.   (Charlottesville, Virginia)

**  Confederate street renaming vote in Fairfax City deferred until July 12.  (Virginia)

**  Fairfax Co. supervisor moves to change district name  from Lee to Francona.  (Virginia)

--Old Secesh

Civil War II: Should Confederate Soldiers Who Died in Civil War be Honored on Memorial Day

MAY 27, 2022

**  Opinion:  Should Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War be honored on Memorial Day?  (Herald-Bulletin, Anderson, Indiana.  This was put in the form of a vote:  Yes, No, Not sure.  The results:  Yes:  74.2%, No:  20.2% and Not Sure:  5.6%.  You'll never guess how I voted.)

**   End of the 'blue and gray?'  National commission considers mothballing  legendary insignia of the 29th Infantry Division.

**  Kansas'  Eisenhower was a great American.  Army base should honor him, not a Confederate.

**  Commission recommends  new names for Georgia forts Gordon and Benning.  (Recommending Gordon be renamed Eisenhower and Benning renamed Moore.)

At least they weren't renaming all after Blacks.

--Old Secesh

Removing Confederate Holidays, Adding Black Holidays and Some More Unbiased Reporting from the Post

MAY 26, 2022

**  Louisiana  closer to removing Confederate-themed holidays.  (Let's see. Remove a Confederate holiday, add a black holiday.  I see.)

**  Preliminary work begins on Caddo Confederate monument removal.  (Louisiana)

**  Straw ballot on Confederate monuments  fails to win Jacksonville City Council support.  (Jacksonville, Florida.  There was to be a straw vote on it in November.  But. let's face it.  Those who want the statues removed know that if it is put to a people vote, they will lose.)

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MAY 27, 2022

**  Work to scrub the Confederate stain from military bases is off to a good start.  (Washington Post.  Nothing like some good old-fashioned non biased reporting, right Post?)

**  Confederate flag and gun rights taunt causes furor at University High School.  (Normal, Illinois)

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: Renaming Fort Bragg, Juneteenth, Home Costs?

MAY 23, 2022

**  Proposed new name for Fort Bragg to be announced on Tuesday.  (North Carolina.  I'll take odds the name will be of a black person.)

**  Broward judge 'didn't get the memo' on Juneteenth.  (Florida.  She didn't know.  I personally will not do anything for Juneteenth.)

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MAY 24, 2022

**  A Confederate street name could cost you.  (Washington Post.  Your home could be worth 6% less if it is named after a Confederate.)

**  Group wants voters to decide on fate of Confederate monuments in Jacksonville.  (Florida.  In other words, let the people vote on removal.  Of course those wanting them removed won't go for this because about every time it is put to a vote, the decision is to keep them.)

--Old Secesh.

The Second Civil War: Renaming Those Streets, Referendum? Islamic Involvement, Renaming

MAY 16, 2022

** A civil war among neighbors over Confederate-themed streets.  (Fairfax, Virginia)

**  'Just absurd':  Virginia teen  who passed out at party before racial slurs were drawn on him.  Virginia.  A 16-year-old black student was at a party with his white friends and passed out.  Well, that should be a lesson learned.  Don't drink underage and especially don't pass out.

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MAY 17, 2022

**  Jacksonville City Council pans c(C)onfederate monument referendum.  (Florida.  Wonder why they did that.  Most times the people are allowed to vote on removal, it loses.)

**  CAIR supports  call for Virginia city of Fairfax to drop Confederate street names.  (CAIR is Council on American-Islamic relations.  Again, with all the terrorist activity attributed to Islamic people, should they be saying anything?)

**  Brooklyn's historic Fort Hamilton exercises  federally-mandated edict to banish  Confederate ties.  (General Lee Avenue renamed John E. Warren Avenue.  A well-deserved honor for him as he won a Medal of Honor recipient.)

However, I am just hoping everything is not renamed for a black person.  Come on, there has to be some worthy white folks.

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: Virginia, Alabama, Texas and Louisiana

APRIL 20, 2022

**  Clarke Co. judge rules Confederate  statue stays at courthouse.  (Berryville, Virginia.  How'd that happen?  I thought the justice system was biased against us.)

**  Civil Rights groups file lawsuit against the City of Florence ordinances used to silence and intimidate Confederate monument protesters.  (Alabama)

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APRIL 21, 2022

**  Sen Lucas details where she'll spend  $300K Confederate monument settlement.  (Virginia.  She instigated hate crimes against Confederate monument in Portsmouth and got away with it.  At least that money will be going to worthy causes.)

**  Austin to vote on  Confederate street renaming this spring.  (Texas.  Maggie Mayes Street.  She was a black educator.  Unfortunately the city council will vote, not the people.)

**  Louisiana lawmakers move forward with effort to remove Confederate holidays from state list.

--Old Secesh

Confederadication: Mississippi State Song, Virginia Black Man Gets Rich, Let the Voters Decide

APRIL 17, 2022

**  'One Mississippi' replaces state song that racist roots.  (Mississippi.  The old one was "Go Mississippi.')

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APRIL 18, 2022

**  For a black man hired to undo a Confederate legacy, it has not been easy.  (Virginia.  Devon Henry is the man.  He runs the company that has taken the Richmond statues down.  He has made quite a bit of money for his efforts.  What a guy!!)

**  Will Jacksonville  remove Confederate monuments?  Voters may decide.  (Florida.  The decision of statue removal should always be left up to the voters.)

--Old Secesh

Fort Benning, Mississippi, Voting, Confederate Holidays, Black Holidays, Texas

APRIL 12, 2022

**  Major General Donahoe says For Benning  will be renamed by 2023.  (Georgia)

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APRIL 13, 2022

**  Rebel flags cause uproar at Biloxi MS elementary school.  (Mississippi)

**  Should voters have final say on Confederate monuments?  (You betcha!!)

**  While Confederate monuments come down, Confederate holidays continue.  (Well, we recently got Juneteenth and how long until Harriet Tubman's birthday becomes a national holiday?)

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APRIL 14, 2022

**  Killeen seeks input on new name for Fort Hood.  (Texas)

--Old Secesh

Let the People Vote on Statue Removal

APRIL 8, 2022

**  Opinions divided on Confederate statue in Lewisburg.  (West Virginia)

**  Jacksonville city councilman wants voters to decide on removal of Confederate monuments.  (Florida.  This is the correct way to determine removal.  Let the people vote, not some spineless elected officials.  But, Blacks will have to know that if they don't get their way they have to live with it.)

**  Protest being planned in response to Confederate Memorial Day event.  (Stone Mountain, Georgia.  Be careful now of rioting and looting.)

**  Commission:  Fort Belvoir building, three roads may need to be renamed.

**  From Lee  Circle to Harmony Circle?  New Orleans City Council takes first step to renaming street.

--Old Secesh

Confederadication: Flags, Confederate Memorial Days, Jews, Memphis and NOLA

MARCH 27, 2022

**  Mitch O'Connell's Confederate flag photo resurfaces after he announces he will oppose Kentanji Brown  Jackson's Supreme Court confirmation.

**  According to this rumor, a handful of US states  designated "Confederate Memorial Day" as....

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MARCH 28, 2022

**  Firestone exhibition of Jewish American artists featuring works by  Confederate soldiers canceled.  (At Princeton University.  There were two works of art by Jews who were Confederates.  Now, you know you can't have something like that to upset certain people.)

**  Memphis unveils  monument honoring  suffrage movement  leaders.  (Tennessee.  Women's right to vote.  Hopefully, they will remember that all the leaders have to be Blacks.  It wouldn't do to honor a white person you know.)

**  NOLA says bye bye to Robert E. Lee and Hello to Allen Toussaint Avenue.  (New Orleans.  Of course, Allen Toussaint is a black person.)

--Old Secesh

Should a Confederate Monument Be Removed If There Are More Whites Than Blacks in a Town?

MARCH 21, 2022

**  Will this predominately white town remove its Confederate monument?  (The people should vote on it.  If there are a lot of "woke" whites voting along with the Blacks, then they should have enough votes to remove it.) 

**  Ketanji   Brown Jackson fought injustices while at Harvard.  (Supreme Court nominee.  Someone had a Confederate flag in their dorm window.  She objected to it.  Wonder how she feels about a BLM flag?  The fact that she was the one and only one considered for the job makes me wonder if there were any white men also qualified for the job who might have been overlooked because of their sex and race.  Makes you wonder.)

**  Push to bring Robert E. Lee bust back to downtown Fort Myers.  (Florida)

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MARCH 22, 2022

As you may well imagine, there are lots and lots of stories out now about the renaming of the bases.

**  New plan  proposed to remove Jacksonville's remaining  Confederate monuments.  (Florida)

--Old Secesh

A Cost to Renaming Roads and Streets

From the February 18, 2022, Fairfax County Times (Virginia)  "Highway name changes in Fairfax County could come with hefty  price tag" by Sravan Gannavarapu.

In December the Confederate Names Task Force voted to rename the Lee Highway and Lee-Jackson Memorial Highway.

Springfield District Supervisor Pat Herrity said the cost for renaming these could come between $1-4 million due to significant fiscal impacts and customer impacts on businesses and residents.

And, then there is the cost of making new signs, taking the old ones down and putting up the new ones.

It was noted that recently  Wade Hampton Drive in Vienna had its name changed to Liberty  Lane.  As a result, each of the town's property owners  will receive $500 for out-of-pocket costs associated with the name change.

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Personally, I would like to see name changes put up to a vote.  If the majority of the people want the name changed, then change it.  But, have the cost of changing the name go to those who voted to change it.

Let Them Put Their Money Where Their Mouths Are.  --Old Secesh

I'm All In Favor of Black Monuments, But.... Now, Even the Color Grey Comes Under Fire.

NOVEMBER 15, 2021

**  Sculpture a tribute to US Colored Troops liberation of Wilmington.  (Wilmington, North Carolina.  This is a good one to  put up as many USCT regiments were involved in the capture of the city.  However, Wilmington was not liberated.  It was captured.  Also, to put  up a statue to Blacks when you're taking down statues to whites.  I just don't know.)

You can never have too many historical statues or markers in my book.

**  Westford  schools may remove  'grey' from mascot's name, rebrand with students' help.  (Westford, Massachusetts.  How far will they go?  Come On, Man.)

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NOVEMBER 16, 2021

**  The Old Home Town makes the proper decision on Confederate statue.  (Jackson, Tennessee)

**  Confederate Memorial Park to host Christmas event.  (Marbury, Alabama.  I wonder how this park has escaped attack?)

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NOVEMBER 17, 2021

**  Tar Heel Voices:  The people never spoke on statues.  (Agreed.  To remove a statue should always entail a vote by the people.)

Now, Even the Color Grey?  Come On, Man.  --Old Secesh

And, a Third Virginia County Votes to Keep Their Confederate Monument

I just found out that there was a third Virginia County that voted to keep their Confederate monument where it is.  And that one would be Nottaway County.

There, 68% of the people voted to keep it.

Now, remember, Blacks pretty much all voted to move it and then there were the liberal white Democrats that also would vote to move it.

Kind of says something.

The other two counties were Middlesex and Matthews.

But, remember these are non-binding votes and the politicians can still remove them.

Again, I am not against removing Confederate monuments from public places, but this must be done with respect and dignity.

Nottaway County is also the home of Fort Pickett, named for Confederate Major General George E. Pickett.  It is used primarily as a Virginia National Guard training facility.  It's name  will be changed by a federal directive aimed at all military bases named after Confederates.

Personally, I think all statue removals should be put to the public vote and not a group of politicians.

Let's Just Hope the Politicians in These Three Counties Heed Public Opinion.

--Old Secesh

They Put the Statue Removal to a Vote in Two Virginia Counties and Guess What Happened?

This last Tuesday, Virginia had their elections.  I was so glad to see the Republicans do so well.  The new governor, lieutenant governor and attorney general are all Republicans and it appears that Republicans took back control of the House of Delegates.

And, then I found that two Virginia counties actually put the removal of Confederate statues to a vote.  I was very surprised that the Democrats and their black allies would do this after the results of the vote in the last election when six counties had a similar vote.

All six counties voted to leave the Confederate monuments where they were.  After that, I was sure the Democrats would never allow this to come up to a people vote and rely on politicians to make the decision.

When they put it to a public vote about whether or not to remove a Confederate statue, it would seem the majority of the people prefer to keep them where they are.  Which begs the question as to who the Virginia politicians are really representing, their constituents or special interest groups?

Remove or Not to Remove.  That Is The Question.  --Old Secesh

Virginia Counties Vote Overwhelmingly to Keep Confederate Monuments

From the November 3, 2021, Daily Press (Virginia) by Dave Ress.

Virginia voters in two counties, Matthews and Middlesex, voted overwhelmingly to keep their Confederate monuments.

Actually, the headline makes it appear that a whole lot of the counties voted to keep them, but this was just two of the 95 counties that voted.  But, either way, we'll take a victory in this lopsided war wherever we can find one.

Matthews County voters rejected a proposal to relocate the  county's Soldier's and Sailor's Monument on the courthouse green at the corner of Church and Court streets by 3,778 (80%) to 939 (20%).

In Middlesex County, the vote against moving its Confederate monument from the courthouse  grounds in Saluda was 3,229 (75%)  to 1,076 (25%).

Do remember, however, these votes are non-binding, but hopefully the politicians can see the writing on the wall.

See What Happens When You Trample on Peoples' Heritage.  Hopefully, Lesson Learned Democrats.  --Old Secesh

So, Why Were So Many Democrats Shown the Door in Virginia? I'd Say Folks Are Fed Up with the Attacks on the Confederacy

The Democrats are scratching their heads trying to figure out why the voting this past Tuesday went so against them.

Many believe it was because people are upset with Joe Biden and his policies.

I sure know why I would have been anti-Democrat (and before the last election, I voted for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama).

And that is because of the Democrat and black allies war on any and everything Confederate.  What they have been doing with Confederate statues alone warrants this.  And, that is not just in Virginia.

The people of Virginia have spoken.  They're not going to get a fair shake on Confederate monuments from the Democrats.

It would appear that the majority of people in Virginia have spoken.  Hopefully the Democrats will remember this in the future.

And, remember, the Democrats were the party of Jim Crow and the Dixiecrats.  Blacks should never forget this.

Of course, now hopefully Democrats at local levels have also been shown the door.

Like I Said, Let the People Vote to Decide on Monument Removal.  --Old Secesh

Well, Maybe There's Hope for Virginia After All

I was quite interested in the Virginia elections this past Tuesday.  The Democrats controlled the state government and things these last two years have almost been worse for those of us with Confederate heritage than when we had Union armies marching all over the state and destroying most everything they could get their hands on.

In other words, the Democrats had to go.

The Republican candidates for governor, lt.gov, and attorney general all won.  Plus, it appears the Republicans have taken control back in the House of Delegates.

So, maybe there is some hope for that state.

I do not know if there was any voting by counties or towns about removal of Confederate statues, but doubt that there were.  After the voting the last time, those that hate all things Confederate would not dare to put it up to a vote of the people.  They know they would lose.

--Old Secesh