How Do Black Veterans Feel About Renaming Bases? Louisiana, Confederate Holidays, Virginia

JUNE 4, 2022

**  Veterans of color on  proposed ditching of  Confederate names at 9 bases.

**  Vote means 2 Confederate holidays are fading away in Louisiana.

**  'That's an outright lie.'  Discussion gets heated regarding  Confederate  statue removal.  (Owensboro, Kentucky.   It has already been removed.)

**  Virginia county moves, rededicates Confederate monuments.  (Abingdom, Virginia)

**  Busts removed from Caddo Confederate monument in preparation for move.  (Louisiana)

--Old Secesh

Florida, Tennessee and North Carolina

MARCH 22, 2022

**  Confederate group gets personal in latest bid to restore Robert E. Lee bust.  (Fort Myers, Florida)

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MARCH 23, 2022

**  Public sounds off at Confederate monuments during  city council meeting.  (Jacksonville, Florida)

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MARCH 24, 2022

**  Confederate monuments still roil people in Jacksonville.  (Florida)

**  As a civil rights  marker goes up in Centennial Park,  a Confederate monument's fate rests with the state.  (Tennessee.  Again, why do black monuments and markers replace Confederate ones?)

**  Gaston County monument back in court Monday.  (North Carolina)

--Old Secesh

Should a Confederate Monument Be Removed If There Are More Whites Than Blacks in a Town?

MARCH 21, 2022

**  Will this predominately white town remove its Confederate monument?  (The people should vote on it.  If there are a lot of "woke" whites voting along with the Blacks, then they should have enough votes to remove it.) 

**  Ketanji   Brown Jackson fought injustices while at Harvard.  (Supreme Court nominee.  Someone had a Confederate flag in their dorm window.  She objected to it.  Wonder how she feels about a BLM flag?  The fact that she was the one and only one considered for the job makes me wonder if there were any white men also qualified for the job who might have been overlooked because of their sex and race.  Makes you wonder.)

**  Push to bring Robert E. Lee bust back to downtown Fort Myers.  (Florida)

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MARCH 22, 2022

As you may well imagine, there are lots and lots of stories out now about the renaming of the bases.

**  New plan  proposed to remove Jacksonville's remaining  Confederate monuments.  (Florida)

--Old Secesh

Civil War II: Robert E. Lee's Bust, Savannah, Old Statues and Idaho

FEBRUARY 15, 2022

**  Confederate flag now flies where  Robert E. Lee bust once sat.  (Fort Myers, Florida)

**  A freed slave was a Savannah war hero.  Melt down a Confederate bust and make him a statue.  (Savannah Morning News)

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FEBRUARY 16, 2022

**  Old statues of Confederate generals are slowly disappearing -- will monuments honoring people of color replace them?  (Unfortunately, yes.  It is too bad that we couldn't leave the Confederate ones up and add the ones for Blacks.)

**  Idaho bill would require state approval to remove monuments.  (Idaho?  Really?)

--Old Secesh

All Removed Confederate Items Should Be Turned Over to UDC and SCV

FEBRUARY 6, 2022

**  Post-Confederate law bars Jan. 6 speaker Rep. Cawthorn from office, challengers argue.

**  Two Confederate pedestals coming down today.  (Sad R.)

**  Bill would return  Nathan Bedford Forrest bust to Confederate group in Maury County.  (Tennessee.  Return to SCV.  Any and all Confederate items should always be turned over to the SCV or UDC, all expenses paid and with funds to place it elsewhere.)

**  Nearly 50 Confederate memorials  removed, renamed, and relocated in 2021:  Report.  (Daily Wire.  They describe the SPLC as a progressive group.  They seem to be a progressive hate group all right.)

**  Eleanor Holmes Norton, Cory Booker seek Congressional Gold Medal for  black Civil War veterans.  These are two black U.S. senators.  I agree, the brave Blacks who served in the Union forces should receive recognition, but the Gold Medal would be a bit much.  Hey folks, the Confederate soldiers were pretty brave too.)

--Old Secesh

House Votes to Toss Taney Bust, Confederate Statues-- Part 4: What About the Other Six Justices Who Voted With Taney?

From the June 30, 2021, Chicago Tribune.

The Roger Taney bust will be replaced with one of Thurgood Marshall, the first black justice to serve on the nation's highest court.  Thurgood Marshall is a very deserving man of an honor, but, I have to ask this question.  Does EVERY thing that's replaced have to be replaced with a black person?

The two-foot high marble bust of Taney is outside a room in the Capitol where the Supreme Court met from 1810 to 1860.  It was in that room that Taney, the nation's fifth chief justice, announced the Dred Scott Decision, sometimes called the worst decision in the court's history.

The Supreme Court held that Scott, as a black man, was not a citizen and therefore had no right to sue for freedom, and found that legislation restricting slavery in certain territories was unconstitutional.

Regardless of how we view it now, the fact is that slaves were considered property at the time and as such did not have the right of a free person.  The Supreme Court voted 7-2 that Scott was not a free man and Taney wrote the opinion.  Now, Taney is held in ill-regard, but, shouldn't also all six members who voted with Taney be held in this esteem.

The other members of the Supreme Court in 1857 were McLean, Wayne, Catron, Daniel, Nelson, Grier, Curtis and Campbell.  All were Democrats (notice this, ALL WERE DEMOCRATS) except Curtis who was a Whig.  So Taney and six other Democrats voted that slaves were not citizens.

Benjamin Robbins Curtis and John McLean were the only two who voted against it.  The others obviously were not yet "Woke."

Imagine Democrats Today Being Against Blacks.  --Old Secesh

Is NPR Anti-Confederate? Did You Know That Confederate Is a Proper Name and Should be Capitalized? Evidently Reuters and WWAY Don't.

AUGUST 4, 2021

**  Now that the Forrest bust has been removed, what Confederate symbols might be next?  (Nashville Public Radio.    Wonder what this fine institution had to say about the removal of the Farragut and Gleaves busts?  I still would like to know why they were removed.  Hey, Farragut was Union for crying out loud!)

(Of course, NPR is very liberal and Democrat.)

**  City finds simple way out  with Confederate monument settlement.  (Wilmington, N.C..  The UDC will take them.  Hopefully, part of the deal involves the city paying all costs for removal, including putting them up elsewhere.  Even better, let those folks who want them gone put their money where their mouths are and pay for it themselves.)

**  Fact Check--  D.C.  officer Michael  Fanone was not pictured carrying a confederate (Confederate) flag at Capitol siege.  (Reuters Fact Check.  Hey, Reuters, how about checking to see if you capitalize Confederate?)

**  Mixed  opinions after Wilmington City Council votes to permanently remove confederate (Confederate) statues.  (WWAY 3 ABC Wilmington, N.C..  Looks like WWAY might know that Confederate is a proper name and should be capitalized.)

--Old Secesh

California, Arizona, Cleveland Indians, North Carolina, and Tennessee

JULY 26, 2021

**  2 EGUSD  employees accused of displaying Confederate flag.   (Elk Grove Unified School District, California.)

**  'Traitors':  Ariz. Republican slams Cleveland Indians for name change, praises Confederate generals.  (Played right into the clutches of Democrats.)

**  Picture shows  solidarity between Graham and Charlottesville  organizers.  (Graham, North Carolina)

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JULY 27, 2021

**  What's next for  Confederate marker in Colliersville's Town Square.  'Solutions' discussed.  (Tennessee)

**  Tennessee Museum to open  Confederate bust to public.  (Forrest.  Also busts of U.S. Navy's David G. Farragut and Albert Gleaves.  Still not sure why Farragut's and Gleaves' busts were removed.  Did Taylor bad mouth them as well?)

--Old Secesh

Civil War II: No Tax Money to Remove and Relocate Confederate Monuments. Let Those Who Want It Gone Pay to Get It Gone. Even Admiral Farragut?

JULY 23, 2021

**  Jacksonville lawsuit argues spending tax money on  Confederate statues violates Constitution.  (Jacksonville, Florida.  The man suing is a black man.  And, I support him.  The cost of removal and relocation should be paid by those wanting them gone.  Put your money where your mouths are, black folks and their white minions.)

**  Confederate bust to be removed from Tennessee Capitol.  (Nathan Bedford Forrest.  It will be moved to the nearby Tennessee State Museum.)

**  Wrinkle in removal:  City doesn't own Gen. A.P. Hill's statue.   (Richmond, Virginia)

**  Ga. city changes street named for Confederate general to Obama Boulevard.  (Valdosta.  It was Forrest  Street.  Everybody's picking on Forrest these days.  Again, why does every Confederate renaming have to be a black person?  Aren't there some deserving white folks out there?)

**  Professor believes fate of  area Confederate monument won't be decided soon.  (Roanoke, Virginia)

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JULY 24, 2021

**  Tennessee votes to remove bust of Confederate  general, KKK leader from Capitol.  (In addition, the busts of Union Admiral David Glasgow Farragut and U.S. Navy Admiral Albert Gleaves.  This is a surprising move to me.  What would Blacks and their white minions have against these two Navy men.  I understand what the problem is with Forrest, but, how "Woke" can you folks get?)

I Sure Do Agree With the Guy from Jacksonville Saying That Tax Money Should Not Be Used to Remove Confederate Monuments.  The Costs Should Be Borne By THOSE Who Want Them Removed.  --Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: Panels, Letters, Flags, Bills, Pedestals, Storage and a Cemetery

MARCH 16, 2021

**  A key panel has voted to remove a bust of Confederate  Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee Capitol.  (A Key Panel?  What is a key panel?  Is that where you keep your keys?  I have a key hook.)

**  Letter:  How can you fly a Confederate flag and call yourself a Patriot?   (Chuckle)

**  House committee  approves bill critics say  aims to keep Confederate monuments  on state Capitol grounds.  (West Virginia)

**  Fort Myers quoted in the range of $60,000 to remove Robert E. Lee pedestal.  (Florida.  That seems to be a tad high.  Real high.  Someone's looking to get rich.  Must be a mayor's bud.  Let the BLMers and their white minions at it.  They'll do it for free.  But messy, very, very messy.  Maybe a $10 donation to take a whack at it with a sledge hammer.)

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MARCH 17, 2021

**  Virginia Beach Confederate monument still in storage, committee didn't   support either proposal to move it.  (Virginia.)

**  $200,000 worth of damage  done to presidents, Confederate graves at Virginia Cemetery.  (Hollywood Cemetery in Richmond.  More than 18,000 Confederate soldiers, generals and Jefferson Davis buried there.  No damage to president Monroe and Tyler graves.  No damage done to any clearly Confederate graves either.  Richmond police chief and mayor up in arms about it.  Which is kind of funny considering what they have allowed to happen to Confederate monuments in that city.)

--Old Secesh

The Confederacy Under Attack... Again: Forrest, Confederate Sympathizers, Tombstones Toppled and Have a Coke

MARCH 14, 2021

**  Final removal of Confederate  cavalry general  Forrest from Tennessee Capitol could take months.

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MARCH 15, 2021

**  Men behind  Walters art collection were Confederate sympathizers, officials at Baltimore museum say.  (So?)

**  Alachua  County looks for new  art for space where  Confederate soldier 'Old Joe' once stood.  

**  Civil War hospital  discovered in downtown New Bern.  (North Carolina.  Imagine "Real Civil War" stuff under Confederate search.)

**  Tombstones  toppled at historic Hollywood Cemetery in Richmond.  (I don't know if they were Confederate gravestones or not.  But, I had to chuckle at the mayor's response to this of moral outrage after what he has allowed done to Sad R's Confederate monuments.)

**  Coquitlam  forklift operator  wins case against Coca Cola after Confederate flag mask worn at work.  (Wore it, got fired and won case.)

--Old Secesh

The Continuing Attacks on the Confederacy: Tennessee, Seal, Bust, Submarine, Flag, Context and North Dakota

FEBRUARY 18, 2021

**  State hearing  on removing Confederate flag from Williamson County seal to begin  Thursday.  (Tennessee)

**  Tennessee moves vote on Confederate bust to March.  (Forrest)

**  The first submarine to sink a warship was more deadly to its own crew than for the enemy.  (Now, this is real Civil War history, not the junk I have to write about in this blog.  Just so you know.)

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FEBRUARY 19, 2021

**  South Tampa  farmer Marion  Lambert, who led effort to raise Confederate flag found dead, police say.  (Florida)

**  Alabama  bill could  prohibit adding historical context to Confederate monuments.  (It really doesn't matter since all of them on public spaces will be coming down anyway.  But the "context" messages I have seen are nothing more than people's opinions so just as well not to allow them.)

**  Confederate flag ban request leads to an update in Bismarck Public Schools policy.  (North Dakota.  One black student requested it.  All it takes is one black person to move mountains.)

--Old Secesh

These Are Some Guys Not Afraid to Stand Up to BLM and Antifa. Persons Committing a Hate Crime Are Actually Arrested.

OCTOBER 9, 2020

**  Court hearing and more state  action ahead of Capitol's  bust of Confederate general.  (Nashville, Tennessee.    Nathan Bedford Forrest.)

**  Savannah City Council discusses options for Confederate monuments.  (Georgia.  There have been several acts of vandalism (hate crimes) against them.  BLM at work again.)

**  Confederate 'Lost Cause'  defenders run to keep  seats in Southern legislatures.  (Specifically targeted Rep. Tommy Benton of Georgia, Rep. Larry Pittman of N.C. and Sen. Joey Hensley of Tennessee.  Of course, if I lived in those states and had a chance to vote for any of these men who are not afraid to stand up to BLM, they'd sure get my vote.)

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OCTOBER 10, 2020

**  Confederate marker in Colliersville vandalized, six arrested.  (Tennessee.  I sure wish they'd stop calling it that.  It was a hate crime, pure and simple.  What if somebody "vandalized" a Martin Luther  King, Jr. statue.  What would they call it?  I bet not "vandalism."  But, at least arrests were made.  I was beginning to think folks who "vandalized" a Confederate statue received awards for doing their "civic duty.")

And, in the meantime, that lady senator in Virginia gets to keep her seat after committing a hate crime on her own.  Things that make you wonder.

Where Do I Vote?  --Old Secesh

Will the Last Confederate Statue/Artifact in Virginia Please Turn Out the Light When It Goes? Va. Strikes Again

JULY 25, 2020


**  Confederate statues removed from Virginia Capitol in the dead of the night.  (Do you know who likes to operate in the "dead of the night?"  The sad governor's work again?)

**  Virginia evicts Confederate monuments from its state Capitol.    (Guess they weren't paying rent.)

**  Lee statue, Confederate busts removed from Old House Chamber of Virginia State Capitol.

Other Confederate artifacts removed (mostly busts I imagine):

Joseph E. Johnston
Fitzhugh Lee
Alexander H. Stevens

Thomas Bocock  (Speaker of the Confederate States House of Representatives for most of the war.)
Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson
James E. B. "Jeb" Stuart

Jefferson F. Davis
Matthew F. Maury

I hadn't heard of Thomas Bocock before.

I bet the Confederates would now deeply regret moving the country's capital to Richmond.  They might as well have moved it to Boston or Any Other Hotbed of Abolitionists.

Without a Doubt, Virginia Is Getting Real Good at Confederadication.  Will the Last Confederate Monument in Virginia Please Turn Out the Lights When It Goes?  --Old Secesh

Tennessee's Bust, NC Poll and Does Silent Sam = 3-12 Record for UNC Basketball?

February 21, 2020

**  Panel vacancy delays action on Tennessee Confederate bust.  (Bedford Forrest)

**  General's bust in Tennessee Capitol draws  passionate arguments on whether it should stay or go.

**  WRAL News Poll:  NC residents say keep Confederate statues.    (Race and political ideology are major indicators involving the ongoing debate over what to do with Confederate monuments, such as Silent Sam at UNC-Chapel Hill.)

Nearly 2/3 of Blacks polled said the statues should be moved to cemeteries or battlegrounds or from public spaces altogether, while only 12 percent said the statues should be left alone.  Another 14% said the statues should remain where they are, but context plaques be added.

By comparison, 45% of North Carolinians said the statues should remain where they are, and another 25% said historical context should be added.    Only 23% said they should be removed.

10% who voted for Trump in 2016 say the statues should be removed compared to 58% who voted for Clinton.  Residents identifying themselves as conservatives were twice as likely to want the statues to remain than those who said they are liberal.  So, it is a Republican vs. Democrat thing.

I plan on voting for Republicans here in Illinois for most every position other than president.  And, that is for two reasons.  The first is this is the only way I have to show my contempt for the Virginia Democrats and secondly, to try to get Madigan out of being the Illinois Speaker of the House.  I normally split my votes between the two parties.  I voted for Clinton in 2016.  I also voted for Obama in his second term as well as when he was running for U.S. senator from Illinois.

And, I am sure hoping Virginians can turn the Democrats out of at least one of the houses there.

**  UNC promises that Confederate statue won't return to campus.  (That would be Silent Sam.)

I can't help but think perhaps the way the school treats its history might have something to do with their current 3-12 basketball record.  Come on, UNC with that kind of record?  They used to be good.  And, when it comes to major college basketball fans and since I am from North Carolina, UNC was my team.  But, now with this Silent Samia epidemic I'm not so sure.

Maybe Someone or Something Is Trying to Say Something.  Makes One Think.  --Old Secesh

No Decision in Tennessee and SCV Defending Good Name of Confederates in Virginia and Louisiana

February 5, 2020

**  Tennessee reps decide not to decide on Confederate  statue.  ((Nathan Bedford Forrest bust in state capitol.)

**  Sons of Confederate Veterans respond to bill advancing in Virginia statehouse.    (This is the bill to give local governments control of war memorials.  If this passes, all Confederate statues in the state will immediately either come down or moved.  Looks like the Democrats in that state are living up to their promise to eradicate the Confederacy.  So much for the former capital of the Confederacy.)

**  Confederate group takes Louisiana parade dispute to Fifth Circuit.  (Court.  That group, the SCV.)

**  Fire damages Charleston's historic Confederate Home and College.  (South Carolina.  Hopefully not because of those who hate the Confederacy.)

--Old Secesh

Judge Them By the Standards of Their Time, Not Today's

January 29, 2020

**  Virginia group:  Confederate statues should stay, with changes.  (A Virginia Beach commission recommends historical context by it and a statue honoring black heritage.)

**  Nathan Bedford Forrest bust resolution hearing brings out defense of Confederate general.  (Resolution to remove it introduced by a black legislator.  SCV defending it.  One said, "An individual must be judged by the standards  on the times in which they live-- not  the standards of today."  Very true observation.)

**  Richmond City Council okays procedure for a new statue on Monument Avenue honoring USCT.  But also wants to remove the one of Jefferson Davis and put historical context by other Confederate statues.

--Old Secesh

And, So It Goes,October 19, 2019: Monument Protests Leave Residual Effects in Pittsboro

**  275th anniversary:  Cedar Creek

**  Monument protests leave residual effects on downtown Pittsboro.  Whenever a Southern town does something like Pittsboro did, this means I will be boycotting it for a while.

**  Sanford:  One battle ends, but the fight over a Forrest bust continues at the Tn capital.

**  Executive Council gathers in Montgomery, Alabama, with city underscoring the theme of racial reconciliation.

**  When cotton was king.

--Old Secesh