Let Those Who Want Confederate Mounuments Gone Pay for It Themselves

JUNE 8, 2022

**  Louisiana legislature scraps Confederate holidays more than 150 years after the Civil War.

**  Republican council member takes another shot at Confederate monument removal.  (Jacksonville, Florida.  He wants the city to put up half a million dollars for removal.  I say that those who want it removed should have to come up with the money.  Let them put their money where their mouths are.)

**  Washington County rededicates Confederate statue.  (Abungdon, Virginia.  It was moved from the courthouse.)

**  Confederate statue removed.  (Daviess County, Kentucky)

**  Students charged with raising c(C)onfederate flag at La Plata school.  (Maryland)

--Old Secesh

Let Those Who Want Monuments Gone Pay for Them

MAY 6th, 2022

**  St. Landry Parish Confederate monument could be removed for free, or at least low cost.   (Louisiana.  I hate to see these contractors making so much money removing Confederate monuments, so this would be a good one.  But, I still say that all costs for removal, storage and relocation should be paid by those who want them removed.  No public money should be used.)

**  Why historians think  Cinco de Mayo   prevented the Confederacy's win in the Civil War.  (Hey, a real Civil War piece here.)

**  Black Tennessee mayor declared April Confederate History Month.  (Livingston, Tennessee mayor  Curtis Hayes.  Think I'll move there and vote for him.  Finally a black politician who is not racist.)

**  Ruining Confederate  Memorial Day:  A Report back from Stone Mountain.  (From It's Going Down.  This is the black racist account of what took place at Sone Mountain.  Clearly shows the goals of the other side.)

Put Your Money Where Your Mouths Are.  --Old Secesh

750, $782,000, Assault Charges and Stone Mountain

APRIL 1, 2022

**  More than 750 Defense Department items with names tied to the Confederacy listed for possible renaming.  (Let's just hope they're not all renamed for Harriet Tubman.)

**  Contract signed for Confederate monument removal.  (Caddo Parish, Louisiana.  $782,000 for removal and  relocation to Pleasant Hill Battlefield.  Let's hope that those who want it gone are paying for this.  Put your money where your mouth is.  This shouldn't be paid by public funds.)

**  Assault charge dismissed for Confederacy supporter who talked about beating  up Tami Sawyer.  (That supporter was way out of line and his tirade just proved her right.)

**  Permit  OK'd  for Confederate Memorial Day at Stone Mountain Park.  (Georgia)

I Don't Know, But That $782,000 Seems Awfully High.  Is Someone Out To Make a Killing?  --Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: How Do You Get To Be an Activist?

MARCH 22, 2022

**  Removed  Confederate monument sets milestone in Maryland.  (The "Talbot Boys" statue.  The last Confederate monument on public space in the state.  A coalition raised the money to remove it which is exactly what should always be done for statue removal.  The folks who want it done should PAY for its removal.  It is going to a Civil War battlefield.)

**  Confederate statue condemned at court hearing.  (Virginia.  A current trial of a black man is going on.)

**  Duvall County activists protest to show support  of removing Confederate monuments.  (Jacksonville, Florida.  Again, how do you get to be an activist.  Do you have to go to college?  There sure seem to be an awful lot of black activists.)

**  Coalition pushes to return Robert E. Lee bust to downtown Fort Myers.  (Florida)

--Old Secesh

Robert E. Lee Statue, Cost of Removing Pedestals $1.5 Million, Racism and U.S. Capitol Attack

JANUARY 6, 2022

**  Robert E. Lee statue to exit  Richmond's wastewater plant.  (Sad R.  That's right, a further slap in the face from the mayor and his cohorts, store it at a wastewater plant.  Will this ever end.  Oh yes, and turn it over to a black museum.  One can only imagine what horrible things they are going to do with it.)

**  Removal of remaining Confederate monument pedestals could cost approximately  $1.5 million.  (Sad R.  That seems to be way high, but the money goes to a big-time mayor supporter.  Of course, the cost of all this should be paid for by people who want the monuments and their pedestals gone.  None should come from public funds.)

**  Racism's prominent role in January 6 US Capitol Attack.  (If this was racism, I would think it was in response to what the BLMers were doing during the days of riots all year during 2020.  And, let's face it, most of those rioters, looters and arsonists committing hate crimes were of one particular race of people.)

But, I agree, those pictures of them idiots attacking the Capitol is as offensive to me as the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001.  A horrible day in U.S. history.

Let Those Who Want the Statues Gone PAY for it THEMSELVES.  --Old Secesh

Civil War II: Now They're Upset With Confederate Money. Trump, Brooklyn, Costs of Removing, Florida

NOVEMBER 12, 2021

**  Broward exhibit shows how Confederate money reinforced slavery.  (Florida.  Well, the money showed scenes of slaves working out in the field.)

**  Trump's personal head wanted to fire defense secretary because he  opposed Confederate flags on bases.

**  The chance to rename Brooklyn's General Lee Avenue is here.  (New York.

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NOVEMBER 13, 2021

**  Confederate statues may be gone,  but they continue to cost local taxpayers.  (North Carolina.  Statues either "toppled" by protesters (hate crime) or removed by local governments.  Chatham County paying $300 a month to store its Confederate statue.

**  Bartow's Confederate  marker moves to Oak Hill Cemetery.  (Florida.  Removed in secrecy.)

Save Your Confederate Money.  The South's Gonna Rise Again.  -Old Secesh

What About Those Classic Rock Songs? Hey Jacksonville Confederate Haters, Put Your Money Where Your Mouths Are!

NOVEMBER 3, 2021

**  NY Gov. Kathy Hochul bans  the Confederate flag, other hate symbols on public property.  (As long as any BLM items are also included on this list.)

**  3rd Council committee vote to leave Confederate monument in Springfield Park sparks protest.  (Jacksonville, Florida.  Looked like a whole four protesters.  The council seems to think it will cost over a million dollars to take it down, which to me seems like a whole lot more than it should cost.  Maybe the protesters should come up with the removal money and then have it removed.  Like I have said before, "Hey guys, put your money where your mouths are."  You want it removed?  Then YOU pay for it to be removed.)

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NOVEMBER 4, 2021

**  Should classic rock songs be toppled like Confederate  statues.  (New York Times Opinion. I couldn't read this but sounds interesting.)

--Old Secesh

The Second Civil War: North Carolina Statues, What Happens After Removal? South Carolina and Canada

OCTOBER 28, 2021

**  NC officials have taken down more than 20 Confederate monuments recently.  Here's where.

(Asheville, Charlotte, Clinton, Durham, Fayetteville, Greensboro, Greenville, Lexington, Louisburg, Oxford, Pasquotank County, Pittsboro, Raleigh, Reidsville, Rockingham, Rocky Mount, Salisbury, UNC-Chapel Hill, Wadesboro,  Warrenton, Wilmington, Winston-Salem.)

**  What happens to Confederate monuments after NC removes them?  (Here's what should happen:  First:  All removal, storage and finding a new place for them should be paid for by the people who want them down.  Second:  The statues should be turned over to the UDC, SCV or a state or national battlefield.  Third:  All damage caused by BLM and kindred groups has to be repaired at their cost.)

**  Brunswick Confederate monument wrapped in  plastic during jury selection in Arbery case.  (South Carolina)

**  Confederate flag and hanging effigy prompts Kelowna RCMP investigation.  (Canada)

--Old Secesh

A Surprising Democrat. Confederates in the Attic. $2 Million to Remove Lee Statue and the Father of Gynecology

OCTOBER 3, 2021

**  Georgia Dem would rather keep  Confederate monument  than raise  Clarence Thomas statue.  (Of course, Democrats strongly opposed Thomas being appointed as the second black Supreme Court justice back in the day, but George Floyd, you know.  Really hard to believe that a Democrat would take a stand like that.)

**  Confederates in the Attic:  Minnesota schools begin to part ways with  outdated mascots.  (In other words, Confederate-themed mascots, you know.)

**  State says Lee statue removal cost over $2 million.  (Sad R. Of course, the removal was done by a black-owned business whose head person is a close personal friend of Sad R.'s mayor.  Must be nice to have friends in high places.  And, I can't even conceive of it costing that much to remove. Someone's looking for quite the payday.)

**  Alabama city adds Juneteenth as holiday for its employees.  (Prattville.  They also observe the combined Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert E. Lee birthdays.  These two birthdays should not be commemorated on the same day.)

To my way of thinking, those cities removing Confederate holidays and adding black holidays are really rubbing salt in the wounds.

**  The statue of a doctor who  experimented on enslaved  women still stands in Alabama.  (J. Marion Sims, known as the Father of Gynecology.  This statue should be taken down and one for the women he experimented on put up in its place.)

--Old Secesh

Make Those Who Want The Confederate Statues Gone Pay for It. (Removal Costs, Storage, Reinstallation)

SEPTEMBER 28, 2021

**  Advocates raise enough money to relocate controversial Confederate monument in Caldwell County.  (Lockhart, Texas.  The county commissioners said the public would have to pay the $29,600 to remove it.  They have raised that money.

This is what all governments should immediately do when groups demand removal.  Make that hinge of opponents of the statues pay for the removal themselves.  Of course, this cost should also include relocation and reinstalling and maintenance costs of there are any.

Make "them" put their money where their mouths are.

--Old Secesh

Like I Said, Rename Fort Bragg After Union Gen. Edward Bragg. Virginia, North Carolina,Yale, Alabama and Hispanics

SEPTEMBER 14, 2021

**  Future of Fairfax County roads named after Confederate leaders still up in the air.  (Virginia)

**  Pitt County commissioners discus fate of Confederate monument.  (North Carolina)

**  For second time, Pasquotank commissioners approve  funding for contractor to remove Confederate monument. (North Carolina.  The contractor had originally bid $28,000 but raised it to $50,000.  I'd say find another contractor.  But, even better, make those who want it removed put their money where their mouth is.  YOU PAY FOR IT!!)

**  Memory and memorials:  Yale scholar's work influences removal of Lee statue.  Yale?)

**  Motion to revive Confederate  monument lawsuit to be discussed in Friday hearing.  (Huntsville, Alabama)

**  Public  suggests renaming Fort Bragg after Union officer Edward Bragg.  (Like I've been saying.)

**  Nation's top ranking Hispanic veterans association offers picks for renaming Fort Hood.

--Old Secesh

Hey Media, Confederate Is a Proper Name and Needs to Be Capitalized

SEPTEMBER 2, 2021

**   Opinion:  Get Confederate  symbols off  Virginia school campuses.    (Daily Press, Virginia)

**  Statue of Confederate  Gen. Robert E. Lee in Virginia's capital  can be removed, court rules.  (Virginia's Supreme Court.  Can you imagine a governing body in Virginia being anti-Confederate?)

**  Cost a concern for moving Confederate memorial.  (Augusta, Georgia.  Just have the people who want it removed pay for all costs.  Put your money where your mouth is.)

**  Demonstrators  call Mayor Curry a 'liar' after failure to remove c(C)onfederate monuments.   (Jacksonville, Florida.  First Coast ABC News.  Something about a proper name, guys.)

**  The 'Dukes of Hazzard' c(C)onfederate flag car damaged by Hurricane Ida.  (NME.  Proper name.  Did BLM have something to do with the hurricane?)

I'm beginning to think Blacks must be demanding that Confederate stop being a proper name and thusly capitalized like they did to get black when used as an adjective capitalized.  Which of these terms might be considered racist?:  The Black man,  The white man.  Is this racist?

Actually, most media seems to have a grasp on the proper name thing, but there are some with no idea.

--Old Secesh

Statue of Robert E. Lee Comes Down in Virginia (Or Is It Sad Va.?)

From the September 9, 2021, Chicago Tribune by Sarah Rankin and Denise Lavoie, AP. 

A crowd erupted in cheers and song Wednesday as workers hoisted one of the nation's largest Confederate monuments off a pedestal of Gen. Robert E. Lee towered over Virginia's capital city for more than a century.  Richmond was also the capital of the Confederacy.

This was a magnificent example of public art.  See the painting of the statue on its dedication back in the late1800s.  Again, I just don't see how people could have lived with the statue over a hundred years before some of them realized they were offended by it?

The statue was lowered to the ground just before 9 am (How about that?  A statue removed during the daytime instead of the dead of the night.) after a construction worker who strapped harnesses around Lee and his horse lifted his arms in the air and counted, "Three, two, one!" to jubilant shouts from hundreds of people.

A work crew began cutting it into pieces.

Believe me, there are many of us who are quite less than jubilant over this affront to our heritage.

--Old Secesh

General Lee Statue to Come Down This Week in Sad R.-- FINALLY

This is jumping ahead a bit as this is current news and I am just up to August 26 in this blog.

But, I read today that the huge statue of Robert E. Lee in Sad R. is FINALLY coming down.  I wish it had been taken down soon after the state of Sad V and Sad R allowed BLM and their white minions to do their hate crimes to it last summer.

Every time I see a picture of what it looks like now, I see red and just can't believe this hate crime was allowed (even encouraged) to take place.  It certainly reflects poorly on Sad T. and its state.

Hopefully Democrats and BLM will pay for its removal and also restoration.  Now there should be plans as to where it should go.  All costs to move and replace it should also be paid for by those who want it gone.

Hey, Put Your Money Where Your Mouths Are.  --Old Secesh

Where and How I Stand on Removal of Confederate Statues-- Part 2

I would prefer that the Confederate statues remain where they are.   I would be for Blacks erecting statues of their people if historically connected to the city or town.  But, I am of the belief that the Confederate statues will have to be moved from public spaces, so support that reluctantly.  Sadly, Whites have to make amends for the Jim Crow era  and this is one way to do so.

Those statues should be repaired or have spray paint removed and turned over to Confederate organizations like the SCV or UDC.  They will be the ones to find a suitable place to relocate, probably cemeteries or battlefields.   Maybe even privately-owned Confederate parks.

All expenses for removal, storage, relocation and re-erecting should be paid by those who don't want the statues there as opposed to being paid by public money.  Provisos should be in place to cover further damage by Blacks and their white minions in the future, but hopefully that won't happen because they got their way and should be satisfied.

Something I Could Live With.  --Old Secesh

How Much Does It Cost to Remove a Confederate Monument?-- Part 2: Let Those Who Want It Gone Pay

Here are some costs according to the article:

Baltimore paid $40,000  to move four statues.

Lexington, Ky. paid $225,000 to remove a five-ton statue of Jefferson Davis.

Charlottesville, Virginia, is estimating  it will cost $700,000 to move two Confederate statues in the downtown area.

New Orleans paid  $2.1 million to remove four Confederate statues.  The cost was first estimated at $170,000, but spiked after the first contractor signed to do it had his car burned.

Of course, they can also ask Richmond, Virginia's mayors good buddy how much he got paid for removal of statues there.

--Old Secesh

How Much Does It Cost to Remove a Confederate Monument? Iredell County, N.C.-- Part 1

In the last post, I wrote about Iredell County removing their Confederate statue because of a 4-1 county commissioner vote.    At this point, no one knows the timeline or cost to move the massive monument.

The county has asked the City of Statesville City Council to assist in the move.   Suitable locations for removal are at  Fourth Creek Cemetery and  Oakwood Cemetery, bot of them owned by the city.

Also, the Sons of Confederate Veterans  Camp 387 and  the local chapter of  the Daughters of the Confederacy are to be consulted on the site selection and relocation.

Then, there is a big question about the costs to be associated with the removal and relocation.  Also, a question is when will funds be available for this.

Right now, it appears that funding will be provided by the county.

However, it is my firm belief that all costs involved with this project should be paid by those who want the statues removed.  

Time To Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.  --Old Secesh

Even Muppets and Vampires Now? Really? You Want It Gone, You Pay For It.

FEBRUARY 21, 2021

**  James Weldon Johnson Park's renaming kicks off events celebrating  black history in Duval.  (Jacksonville, Duval County, Florida.  Is it really necessary to turn the renaming into a party as a further slap in the face?)

**  Twilight is trending  again:  Was Jaspar a Confederate soldier?  Here's what fans are saying.  (Talking about the movie.  Would he have to be written out if he was really a Confederate soldier?  Only his hairdresser and BLN knows.)

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FEBRUARY 22, 2021

**  Residents ask county to remove Confederate statue.

**  Luke Combs apologizes for Confederate lag pictures.  (Country music star.  He shouldn't have apologized.)

**  Supervisors approve bids to remove Confederate monument.  (Mississippi.  It will cost $80,000 for removal.  Again, cities and counties should not have to pay for this.  Those who want it removed should put their money where their mouths are.)

**  Why do 18 episodes of 'The Muppet Show' come with a content warning on Disney +?  (One shows Johnny cash performing in front of a Confederate flag.  Really? "Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!")

What Would Kermit Say?   --Old Secesh

Of Flags, Statues and Congress

FEBRUARY 20, 2021

**  Man who flew Confederate flag near intersection of two Florida interstates found dead.  (Tampa, Florida.  30 x 60 foot flag on a 139-foot pole at intersection of I-4 and I-75.   The flag had been taken down temporarily in June in the wake of the Floyd killing amidst the BLM riots after threats to burn it were received.  The man's death was a result of injury from a farm animal.)

**  Isle of Wight votes to remove Confederate monument from public property.  (Virginia.  This was a vote by the board of commissioners, not the public.  The motion to move it was brought by the only black member of the board.  Like I say, all it takes is for one black person to be offended to get things like this done.  Sad.  Very sad.  Whatever happened to majority rules?  Now its Black rules.)

**  Booker, Lee announce re-introduction of bicameral bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol.  (Booker is a black man who is U.S. Senator from New Jersey.  Lee is a black woman who is a U.S. Representative from California.  Big surprise.  They are both Democrats.  Where have we heard this before.  I wonder if the woman knows that she needs to change her last name?)

**  Lowndes Co.  supervisors take next steps in moving Confederate monument.  (Mississippi.  They accepted bids to  dismantle, store and re-erect the statue in Friendship Cemetery for $80,000.  However, I still believe that the expenses should be paid by those who want it removed, not the government.)

--Old Secesh

Mardi Gras Indian Replaces Davis in New Orleans. Who Should Pay for Removals? North Carolina, Tennessee, Country Music and Alabama.

FEBRUARY 17, 2021

**  Mardi Gras Indian display pops up at site of since-removed confederate monument in Mid-City.  (WDSU News 6 NBC.  Looks like a major TV channel would know about the word "Confederate."  On base of former Jefferson Davis monument.  However, if you're going to replace a Confederate monument with something, I can live with this.)

**  Confederate monument move is stalled; SuddenLink motion rejected in 5-4 vote by Pitt commissioners.  (Greenville, NC.  It has already been removed.  The question is to make a donation of it to the local SCV organization which plans to put it up on private property.  While standing, BLM committed one hate crime after another on it.  BLM and NAACP should pay all expenses to remove it and place it elsewhere.)

**  Bill Lee's exemplary handling of Confederate history.  (Governor of Tennessee)

**  Rep. Austin Scott   on panel to change  names of bases that honor Confederates.

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FEBRUARY 18, 2021

**  Luke Combs apologizes for Confederate flag imagery.

**  Alabama House could take up Confederate memorial bills.

--Old Secesh